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How is George Soros perceived in USA and West Europe? Any comments?

ceejayoz 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Conspiracy_theories_and_threats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Conspiracy_theori...
- olivermarks 8y ago
  if you have 14 minutes this US MSM 60 minutes spot from 1996 is a good representation of the mistrust a lot of the centre and particularly the right have about Soros https://youtu.be/QSyczwuTQfo https://youtu.be/QSyczwuTQfo Since then he is synonymous amongst nationalists with open borders and supposedly funding them
- ghtrytttttnsa 8y ago
  It's certainly true that powerless people don't talk in Davos, and the globalist ideas of Soros are not a secret. Nothing more is really needed to despise him and the rest of the global elite. Speaking against China is nice, but president Trump is one of the pioneers in this category and he was hated for it (chinese money can buy a lot of media influence).
Wohlf 8y ago
He's the boogeyman for people on the right, much like the Koch brothers are the boogeymen for the left, at least in the USA.
- gadders 8y ago
  Yeah, I think your view of Soros depends on your view of his policy positions.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 8y ago
  That's a fair assessment whether you're on the right or left!
_red 8y ago
He's an adherent to Poppers philosophies, but he doesn't seem to acknowledge the inherent contradictions posed: "We must be intolerant of intolerance to have a tolerant society". Furthermore, he is a heart a trader, so people are skeptical of his motives. You can make lots of money in the process of destabilizing a society.
hackerman12345 8y ago
Sheryl Sandberg recently got in big trouble for having investigators look into whether he shorted $FB before going up on a public platform to talk about $FB ethical issues.
- duxup 8y ago
  Facebook didn't just investigate... they hired a PR firm to tie Facebook critics to Soros and anti Soros stuff.... Investigate is one thing but they went way farther than that. Also liked to put out lots of other news critical about other tech companies anytime there was a snowball of bad Facebook news.
  - sonnyblarney 8y ago
    " they hired a PR firm to tie Facebook critics to Soros and anti Soros stuff...." Yes, but what if it's true? Soros funds many, highly targeted political activities. It wouldn't be right if people were perpetuating falsehoods about him ... but if he's actively campaigning or supporting an initiative with major $$$, then it's fine if people are informed of that.
    - duxup 8y ago
      >Yes, but what if it's true? Well then maybe they should prove it? I don't get the question, do you think the critics of Facebook critics are all tied to Soros or something? You could say "What if it's true" about anything... that doesn't mean anything.
      - hackerman12345 8y ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/technology/george-soros-facebook-sheryl-sandberg.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/technology/george-soros-f... They're not allowed to prove it. It's a scandal that they are even asking the question - someone was fired for it.
        8y ago
carlsborg 8y ago
Hi is perceived as a defender of democratic systems who has seen fascism - and the war that inevitably follows it - at its worst. He has donated the bulk of his fortune to a foundation that follows this philosophy.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  By some. By others, the polar opposite.
- ghtrytttttnsa 8y ago
  He has literally made a lot of money in chaotic situations, and sometimes even orchestrated the chaos himself. He has spent billions to make people believe that he is actually a good human and some are buying his bluff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Conspiracy_theories_and_threats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Conspiracy_theori...

olivermarks 8y ago
if you have 14 minutes this US MSM 60 minutes spot from 1996 is a good representation of the mistrust a lot of the centre and particularly the right have about Soros https://youtu.be/QSyczwuTQfo https://youtu.be/QSyczwuTQfo Since then he is synonymous amongst nationalists with open borders and supposedly funding them
ghtrytttttnsa 8y ago
It's certainly true that powerless people don't talk in Davos, and the globalist ideas of Soros are not a secret. Nothing more is really needed to despise him and the rest of the global elite. Speaking against China is nice, but president Trump is one of the pioneers in this category and he was hated for it (chinese money can buy a lot of media influence).

Wohlf 8y ago

He's the boogeyman for people on the right, much like the Koch brothers are the boogeymen for the left, at least in the USA.

gadders 8y ago
Yeah, I think your view of Soros depends on your view of his policy positions.
bitxbitxbitcoin 8y ago
That's a fair assessment whether you're on the right or left!

_red 8y ago

He's an adherent to Poppers philosophies, but he doesn't seem to acknowledge the inherent contradictions posed: "We must be intolerant of intolerance to have a tolerant society". Furthermore, he is a heart a trader, so people are skeptical of his motives. You can make lots of money in the process of destabilizing a society.

hackerman12345 8y ago

Sheryl Sandberg recently got in big trouble for having investigators look into whether he shorted $FB before going up on a public platform to talk about $FB ethical issues.

duxup 8y ago
Facebook didn't just investigate... they hired a PR firm to tie Facebook critics to Soros and anti Soros stuff.... Investigate is one thing but they went way farther than that. Also liked to put out lots of other news critical about other tech companies anytime there was a snowball of bad Facebook news.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  " they hired a PR firm to tie Facebook critics to Soros and anti Soros stuff...." Yes, but what if it's true? Soros funds many, highly targeted political activities. It wouldn't be right if people were perpetuating falsehoods about him ... but if he's actively campaigning or supporting an initiative with major $$$, then it's fine if people are informed of that.
  - duxup 8y ago
    >Yes, but what if it's true? Well then maybe they should prove it? I don't get the question, do you think the critics of Facebook critics are all tied to Soros or something? You could say "What if it's true" about anything... that doesn't mean anything.
    - hackerman12345 8y ago
      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/technology/george-soros-facebook-sheryl-sandberg.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/technology/george-soros-f... They're not allowed to prove it. It's a scandal that they are even asking the question - someone was fired for it.
      - 8y ago

carlsborg 8y ago

Hi is perceived as a defender of democratic systems who has seen fascism - and the war that inevitably follows it - at its worst. He has donated the bulk of his fortune to a foundation that follows this philosophy.

ceejayoz 8y ago
By some. By others, the polar opposite.
ghtrytttttnsa 8y ago
He has literally made a lot of money in chaotic situations, and sometimes even orchestrated the chaos himself. He has spent billions to make people believe that he is actually a good human and some are buying his bluff.