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Objective C, Cocoa, And Iphone Programming Books For Beginners

43 points by oscardelben 16y ago

callmeed 16y ago
As someone just recently getting into obj-c/iPhone development, finding good and up-to-date books is hard. Heck it's even hard to find up-to-date answers on stackoverflow. For example, the iPhone SDK book from pragprog. they list is great, but it's already a year old. I own and use a handful of books, but seem to get the most out of online videos, forums, and the sample code at Apple. Also, I find the "grapefruit" book from APress really good: http://apress.com/book/view/9781430230243 http://apress.com/book/view/9781430230243
- gte910h 16y ago
  I'm a mobile developer who does tons of iPhone work. I buy pretty much every iPhone book out there: Basically, any book over 400 pages that is up to date with iOS 3 is good enough, as the iOS 4 changes aren't really that useful for the majority of people.
  - gte910h 16y ago
    Except for video API's, those changed in 3.2 quite a bit.
Xuzz 16y ago
I cannot rate Erica Sadun's "iPhone Cookbook" high enough: some of the techniques it showed (especially the truly modal alert views) incredibly helpful, if slightly obscure.
- J3L2404 16y ago
  Just be careful not to use the private APIs which are peppered through the book.
  - Zev 16y ago
    This is only an issue with the first version of Sadun's book. She has since cleaned the private API usage up.
tortilla 16y ago
Nice iOS screencasts: http://suitmymind.com/blog/category/cocoa-casts http://suitmymind.com/blog/category/cocoa-casts
dgallagher 16y ago
I learned Obj-C/Cocoa using some of the books mentioned, plus a few others. My opinions for them are below. In general to get into Mac/iOS development: 1) Learn C 2) Learn Objective-C 3) Learn Cocoa (Mac) or Cocoa Touch (iOS) - both APIs are similar -------------------- C Books: -------------------- Learn C on the Mac, by Dave Mark - Very newbie-orientated - Hand-holds you through lots of stuff - HIGHLY recommended for beginners - Written specifically for Mac users (using Xcode 3.x) - Won't make you an "expert" in C, but gives you the basics - Code examples all available online Bottom Line: Recommended Programming in C (3rd ed), by Stephen G. Kochan - Well written - on-par with "Learn C on the Mac" regarding beginner status - Not platform specific (you should know Xcode, TextMate) - Code examples don't generally jump chapter-to-chapter Bottom Line: Recommended -------------------- Objective-C Books: -------------------- Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (3rd ed), by Stephen G. Kochan - I haven't fully read this book, but use it as reference - Seems to be a great continuation from Mr. Kochan's C book (above) - I wish I read this instead of Dalrymple/Knaster's Bottom Line: Can't give a recommendation because I haven't fully read it Learn Objective-C on the Mac, by Mark Dalrymple and Scott Knaster - Continuation from "Learn C on the Mac", but I didn't like it as much - Writing style was a bit confusing at times. I preferred Dave Mark's C book. - Mac-orientated (using Xcode 3.x) Bottom Line: Recommended, with reservations -------------------- Cocoa Books: -------------------- Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (3rd ed), by Aaron Hillegass - Chapters 1-8 were fine. Chapters 9-35 are a NIGHTMARE for newbies. - Book uses new terms many times without defining them - Better know what a File's Owner is, or else Chap 9 will confuse you, etc - For one of the code examples the author wrote "I don't really expect you to understand every line of that code now, but browse through the method and try to get the gist." - Book must be read sequentially, and code examples must be done sequentially. Code examples in later chapters can reference code 5 chapters back. There's no skipping around in this book, even for unrelated topics. Very annoying as a reference book. - For non-newbies, gives a "taste" of some of Cocoa's popular API's. You'll have to read Apple's docs to really learn how to use them. - Reading this book after getting some Cocoa experience was much easier. Bottom Line: Very good intro to Cocoa's API's, but NOT for newbies coming straight from an Objective-C book. Read another Cocoa book first, program in Cocoa for 3-6 months, and then get this book. Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X for Dummies (2nd ed), by Erick Tejkowski - THIS is the best "newbie" Cocoa book I've read. Very easy to understand and follow. - Hand-holds you the entire way. - Many "minor" errors in the book and code examples, which is its only downfall. However I managed to figure them all out and get every example working. Bottom Line: Recommended for newbies. Only caveat is there are a lot of minor errors in the book, but I managed to figure them all out without much sweat. Dave Mark has also written a new Cocoa book which I haven't read: Learn Cocoa on the Mac, by Jack Nutting, David Mark, Jeff LaMarche. If it's anything like Mr. Mark's C book, it's probably pretty good. Check reviews on Amazon, etc... -------------------- Also of note, Apple announced Xcode 4 in June 2010, which will replace Xcode 3.x "sometime in the future". Currently it's in beta. It has a very different user interface than Xcode 3.x, meaning just about every Mac programming book will become dated the moment Xcode 4 comes out. Both 3 & 4 appear "similar", but different enough to confuse new programmers.
vladocar 16y ago
What is your favorite book for learning Objective C ?

43 points by oscardelben 16y ago

As someone just recently getting into obj-c/iPhone development, finding good and up-to-date books is hard. Heck it's even hard to find up-to-date answers on stackoverflow. For example, the iPhone SDK book from pragprog. they list is great, but it's already a year old. I own and use a handful of books, but seem to get the most out of online videos, forums, and the sample code at Apple. Also, I find the "grapefruit" book from APress really good: http://apress.com/book/view/9781430230243 http://apress.com/book/view/9781430230243

gte910h 16y ago
I'm a mobile developer who does tons of iPhone work. I buy pretty much every iPhone book out there: Basically, any book over 400 pages that is up to date with iOS 3 is good enough, as the iOS 4 changes aren't really that useful for the majority of people.
- gte910h 16y ago
  Except for video API's, those changed in 3.2 quite a bit.

Xuzz 16y ago

I cannot rate Erica Sadun's "iPhone Cookbook" high enough: some of the techniques it showed (especially the truly modal alert views) incredibly helpful, if slightly obscure.

J3L2404 16y ago
Just be careful not to use the private APIs which are peppered through the book.
- Zev 16y ago
  This is only an issue with the first version of Sadun's book. She has since cleaned the private API usage up.

tortilla 16y ago

Nice iOS screencasts: http://suitmymind.com/blog/category/cocoa-casts http://suitmymind.com/blog/category/cocoa-casts

dgallagher 16y ago

I learned Obj-C/Cocoa using some of the books mentioned, plus a few others. My opinions for them are below. In general to get into Mac/iOS development: 1) Learn C 2) Learn Objective-C 3) Learn Cocoa (Mac) or Cocoa Touch (iOS) - both APIs are similar -------------------- C Books: -------------------- Learn C on the Mac, by Dave Mark - Very newbie-orientated - Hand-holds you through lots of stuff - HIGHLY recommended for beginners - Written specifically for Mac users (using Xcode 3.x) - Won't make you an "expert" in C, but gives you the basics - Code examples all available online Bottom Line: Recommended Programming in C (3rd ed), by Stephen G. Kochan - Well written - on-par with "Learn C on the Mac" regarding beginner status - Not platform specific (you should know Xcode, TextMate) - Code examples don't generally jump chapter-to-chapter Bottom Line: Recommended -------------------- Objective-C Books: -------------------- Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (3rd ed), by Stephen G. Kochan - I haven't fully read this book, but use it as reference - Seems to be a great continuation from Mr. Kochan's C book (above) - I wish I read this instead of Dalrymple/Knaster's Bottom Line: Can't give a recommendation because I haven't fully read it Learn Objective-C on the Mac, by Mark Dalrymple and Scott Knaster - Continuation from "Learn C on the Mac", but I didn't like it as much - Writing style was a bit confusing at times. I preferred Dave Mark's C book. - Mac-orientated (using Xcode 3.x) Bottom Line: Recommended, with reservations -------------------- Cocoa Books: -------------------- Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (3rd ed), by Aaron Hillegass - Chapters 1-8 were fine. Chapters 9-35 are a NIGHTMARE for newbies. - Book uses new terms many times without defining them - Better know what a File's Owner is, or else Chap 9 will confuse you, etc - For one of the code examples the author wrote "I don't really expect you to understand every line of that code now, but browse through the method and try to get the gist." - Book must be read sequentially, and code examples must be done sequentially. Code examples in later chapters can reference code 5 chapters back. There's no skipping around in this book, even for unrelated topics. Very annoying as a reference book. - For non-newbies, gives a "taste" of some of Cocoa's popular API's. You'll have to read Apple's docs to really learn how to use them. - Reading this book after getting some Cocoa experience was much easier. Bottom Line: Very good intro to Cocoa's API's, but NOT for newbies coming straight from an Objective-C book. Read another Cocoa book first, program in Cocoa for 3-6 months, and then get this book. Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X for Dummies (2nd ed), by Erick Tejkowski - THIS is the best "newbie" Cocoa book I've read. Very easy to understand and follow. - Hand-holds you the entire way. - Many "minor" errors in the book and code examples, which is its only downfall. However I managed to figure them all out and get every example working. Bottom Line: Recommended for newbies. Only caveat is there are a lot of minor errors in the book, but I managed to figure them all out without much sweat. Dave Mark has also written a new Cocoa book which I haven't read: Learn Cocoa on the Mac, by Jack Nutting, David Mark, Jeff LaMarche. If it's anything like Mr. Mark's C book, it's probably pretty good. Check reviews on Amazon, etc... -------------------- Also of note, Apple announced Xcode 4 in June 2010, which will replace Xcode 3.x "sometime in the future". Currently it's in beta. It has a very different user interface than Xcode 3.x, meaning just about every Mac programming book will become dated the moment Xcode 4 comes out. Both 3 & 4 appear "similar", but different enough to confuse new programmers.

vladocar 16y ago

What is your favorite book for learning Objective C ?