Yeah, but how many people do you work with that have those types of commitments? How many people didn't participate in that crunch at all? I'll hazard that the

Yeah, but how many people do you work with that have those types of commitments? How many people didn't participate in that crunch at all? I'll hazard that the answer is low, because the industry self-selects for people who are willing to take abuse for 'prestige'. They take pride in it, just the same way you did. > This is a bit of a stretch. We are limiting the scope of our discussion to workers in the game industry. Yes, yes we are. My first job in the industry was $35k/hr as a dev and I've seen worse salaries for design or art. Let me pose a question to you. How would you live in Seattle, on $35k/yr in a way that one accident/major expense wouldn't put you in a situation where you're living paycheck to paycheck? Keep in mind an average 1br apartment is ~$1800/mo[1] so you're going to be well over 50% income : housing ratio. For that reason you have people who work second jobs or have other commitments to be able to make their rent. [1] https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/wa/seattle/ https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/wa/se...