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I have no problem if all someone wants out of life is to get high and jack off. I do have somewhat of a problem being forced to pay for it.

enraged_camel 8y ago
Again though, why do you have a problem with other people doing things that make them happy?
- FiveSquared 8y ago
  Cause I am being bled dry with taxes!
- NateEag 8y ago
  He doesn't. He just feels it's not his responsibility to enable it, and that the government forcing him to is violating his freedom of choice. At least, that's one of the things that bothers me about it. Civilized society is all about trading individual freedom for group stability, and perhaps UBI is on balance a good idea. I'm not sure myself, but I tend to be skeptical of claims that "X will solve society's woes." Giving people wealth doesn't change them, and it has really fouled up some places - look at what happened to Haiti after the earthquake when all the aid poured in. Local farms largely died out because they couldn't compete with free food, and as a result the country became less self-sustaining and wealthy. So, yeah, I guess I have similar concerns for UBI.
shadowbannedtoo 8y ago
The wealthy control us with the, 'I don't want to pay for it trick.' Any new idea, like UBI, that might equal out the playing field, a bit, is so easily shot down by scare tactics. I foresee a future of just rich people, and the exploited. I truly find it depressing. The wealthy have us all blaming the wrong people. The middle class blame the poor. The whiter ones blaming the darker ones. Just blame someone except the rich boys, and the buying power of that family money. All the while, the crafty boys are controlling our thoughts, and actions. All this cheap tech surveillance, and cheap psyops, just make the wealthy chaps goal of keeping us enslaved easier.

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I have no problem if all someone wants out of life is to get high and jack off. I do have somewhat of a problem being forced to pay for it.

by ams6110 8y ago

enraged_camel 8y ago
Again though, why do you have a problem with other people doing things that make them happy?
- FiveSquared 8y ago
  Cause I am being bled dry with taxes!
- NateEag 8y ago
  He doesn't. He just feels it's not his responsibility to enable it, and that the government forcing him to is violating his freedom of choice. At least, that's one of the things that bothers me about it. Civilized society is all about trading individual freedom for group stability, and perhaps UBI is on balance a good idea. I'm not sure myself, but I tend to be skeptical of claims that "X will solve society's woes." Giving people wealth doesn't change them, and it has really fouled up some places - look at what happened to Haiti after the earthquake when all the aid poured in. Local farms largely died out because they couldn't compete with free food, and as a result the country became less self-sustaining and wealthy. So, yeah, I guess I have similar concerns for UBI.
shadowbannedtoo 8y ago
The wealthy control us with the, 'I don't want to pay for it trick.' Any new idea, like UBI, that might equal out the playing field, a bit, is so easily shot down by scare tactics. I foresee a future of just rich people, and the exploited. I truly find it depressing. The wealthy have us all blaming the wrong people. The middle class blame the poor. The whiter ones blaming the darker ones. Just blame someone except the rich boys, and the buying power of that family money. All the while, the crafty boys are controlling our thoughts, and actions. All this cheap tech surveillance, and cheap psyops, just make the wealthy chaps goal of keeping us enslaved easier.