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> That doesn't follow Your take on the situation also wasnt a direct logical entailment. We both gave our interpretation of the unwillingness to covwr birth co

> That doesn't follow Your take on the situation also wasnt a direct logical entailment. We both gave our interpretation of the unwillingness to covwr birth control. I gave mine as a counterinterpretation to yours to avoid ideological hegemony. > Your idea of fun is, I suspect, not universal But it is substantially more fun!

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Your take on the situation also wasnt a direct logical entailment. We both gave our interpretation of the unwillingness to covwr birth control. No, I think you have fallen into the “anyone who responds to me other than in agreement must be the same person I responded to” error.
- tathougies 8y ago
  Oh youre absolutely right. Oops!
DoreenMichele 8y ago
But it is substantially more fun! Your other remarks here suggest you are Catholic and saved yourself for marriage. If you have only ever had one sex partner and have only ever had sex without birth control, then you seem rather unqualified to make a comparative statement of this sort.
- tathougies 8y ago
  Indeed, my personal experience is irrelevant. Thankfully, most anecdata makes for a very uncompelling argument. Luckily, we have large scale surveys to cover the gap: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/paeekv/why-conservatives-have-better-sex-lives-than-liberals https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/paeekv/why-conservati...
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    The piece linked really isn't particularly pertinent to whether sex without birth control versus sex with birth control is more fun. Since a lot of women don't even want to have sex without birth control, it could be argued that you will have more fun if you use or allow for birth control. As far as I know, the term "conservative" does not mean "people who universally refuse to use birth control." Correct me if I'm wrong. If you want to argue that sex without birth control is more fun than sex with birth control, you will need to find a study pertinent to that claim, not pertinent to the claim that socially conservative people have more fun in private. I'm happy to concede that socially conservative people who are picky about who they sleep with and other details that serve as protection against serious regret following sex probably enjoy sex more. But that was not the claim.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Your take on the situation also wasnt a direct logical entailment. We both gave our interpretation of the unwillingness to covwr birth control. No, I think you have fallen into the “anyone who responds to me other than in agreement must be the same person I responded to” error.

tathougies 8y ago
Oh youre absolutely right. Oops!

DoreenMichele 8y ago

But it is substantially more fun! Your other remarks here suggest you are Catholic and saved yourself for marriage. If you have only ever had one sex partner and have only ever had sex without birth control, then you seem rather unqualified to make a comparative statement of this sort.

tathougies 8y ago
Indeed, my personal experience is irrelevant. Thankfully, most anecdata makes for a very uncompelling argument. Luckily, we have large scale surveys to cover the gap: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/paeekv/why-conservatives-have-better-sex-lives-than-liberals https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/paeekv/why-conservati...
- DoreenMichele 8y ago
  The piece linked really isn't particularly pertinent to whether sex without birth control versus sex with birth control is more fun. Since a lot of women don't even want to have sex without birth control, it could be argued that you will have more fun if you use or allow for birth control. As far as I know, the term "conservative" does not mean "people who universally refuse to use birth control." Correct me if I'm wrong. If you want to argue that sex without birth control is more fun than sex with birth control, you will need to find a study pertinent to that claim, not pertinent to the claim that socially conservative people have more fun in private. I'm happy to concede that socially conservative people who are picky about who they sleep with and other details that serve as protection against serious regret following sex probably enjoy sex more. But that was not the claim.