4 ms·

Break it up into what? All the problems of Facebook are inherent to Facebook as a product, "breaking up" Facebook doesn't really fix anything.

chr1 8y ago
Two facebooks that need to talk with each other (and new implementations) via open and documented protocol.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- jwalton 8y ago
  Yes, exactly; just like breaking up Bell in the 80s.
- traek 8y ago
  This is the worst case scenario for consumers. An "open and documented protocol" is what led to the Cambridge Analytica scandal; most people are not informed enough to properly manage permissions and even if they were, the personal data of friends would necessarily be available via this protocol. Posting something on this new platform-ized Facebook would be akin to sharing with every app each of your friends has authorized.
endofcapital 8y ago
Insta/Facebook is the most obvious split. Maybe break it out into regions or countries? They have way too much power, have to take some sort of steps.
reaperducer 8y ago
Break it up into what? Off the top of my head: - Facebook content - Facebook advertising - Facebook messenger - Instagram - whatever other apps Facebook owns - probably a whole bunch of others that will require thinking about it more than four seconds.
- root_axis 8y ago
  > Facebook content > Facebook advertising > Facebook messenger Those are all inextricable from the Facebook platform. If there is no Facebook platform there is no place for ads or content, if there is no Facebook user database there is no way to route messages. I suppose for messages you could clone the database and give it to each company but that seems strictly worse since now you have two companies with your Facebook PII. > Instagram... whatever other apps Facebook owns Sure, but like I said, that that doesn't really change anything. Can you please elaborate on how the consumer would benefit from this? > probably a whole bunch of others that will require thinking about it more than four seconds. No need for sarcastic quips.
Shivetya 8y ago
Facebooks problem is that it makes it easier for people to exchange ideas, news fake or not, and more, all without the oversight of government which really does not like that level of free interaction. local community interaction is fine, being able to interact nationally or globally with ease undermines the power of politicians and their political backers. the concerns are not about meddling in elections but meddling by people not approved by existing parties and their supporters. they want to control the message and approve the messengers. the internet as a whole is a threat to that but not organized enough to where other groups can communicate with like thinking people easily and quickly. tools like facebook give people the ability to organize beyond their local geographical area.
Zanni 8y ago
Back during the Microsoft antitrust trial, there was talk of breaking them up into two companies, Apps and Systems. And I thought, really? Now you'll just have two companies--smaller, nimbler, hungrier, that don't compete with each other. Or, as jwz might say, "Now you have two problems."
- joejerryronnie 8y ago
  I remember a cartoon at that time. The first pane was titled “Microsoft before the breakup”, and it was a picture of a big, mean, nasty octopus. The second pane was titled “Microsoft after the breakup”, and it was a picture of two big, mean, nasty octopi.

chr1 8y ago

Two facebooks that need to talk with each other (and new implementations) via open and documented protocol.

deleted 8y ago
[deleted]
jwalton 8y ago
Yes, exactly; just like breaking up Bell in the 80s.
traek 8y ago
This is the worst case scenario for consumers. An "open and documented protocol" is what led to the Cambridge Analytica scandal; most people are not informed enough to properly manage permissions and even if they were, the personal data of friends would necessarily be available via this protocol. Posting something on this new platform-ized Facebook would be akin to sharing with every app each of your friends has authorized.

endofcapital 8y ago

Insta/Facebook is the most obvious split. Maybe break it out into regions or countries? They have way too much power, have to take some sort of steps.

reaperducer 8y ago

Break it up into what? Off the top of my head: - Facebook content - Facebook advertising - Facebook messenger - Instagram - whatever other apps Facebook owns - probably a whole bunch of others that will require thinking about it more than four seconds.

root_axis 8y ago
> Facebook content > Facebook advertising > Facebook messenger Those are all inextricable from the Facebook platform. If there is no Facebook platform there is no place for ads or content, if there is no Facebook user database there is no way to route messages. I suppose for messages you could clone the database and give it to each company but that seems strictly worse since now you have two companies with your Facebook PII. > Instagram... whatever other apps Facebook owns Sure, but like I said, that that doesn't really change anything. Can you please elaborate on how the consumer would benefit from this? > probably a whole bunch of others that will require thinking about it more than four seconds. No need for sarcastic quips.

Shivetya 8y ago

Facebooks problem is that it makes it easier for people to exchange ideas, news fake or not, and more, all without the oversight of government which really does not like that level of free interaction. local community interaction is fine, being able to interact nationally or globally with ease undermines the power of politicians and their political backers. the concerns are not about meddling in elections but meddling by people not approved by existing parties and their supporters. they want to control the message and approve the messengers. the internet as a whole is a threat to that but not organized enough to where other groups can communicate with like thinking people easily and quickly. tools like facebook give people the ability to organize beyond their local geographical area.

Zanni 8y ago

Back during the Microsoft antitrust trial, there was talk of breaking them up into two companies, Apps and Systems. And I thought, really? Now you'll just have two companies--smaller, nimbler, hungrier, that don't compete with each other. Or, as jwz might say, "Now you have two problems."

joejerryronnie 8y ago
I remember a cartoon at that time. The first pane was titled “Microsoft before the breakup”, and it was a picture of a big, mean, nasty octopus. The second pane was titled “Microsoft after the breakup”, and it was a picture of two big, mean, nasty octopi.