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$22k on an instrument is not an eye-raising amount of money for a "serious" musician. I'm a (not very serious) guitarist and I have a couple k into my '74 Marti

$22k on an instrument is not an eye-raising amount of money for a "serious" musician. I'm a (not very serious) guitarist and I have a couple k into my '74 Martin D18. You can _easily_ spend $10-20k or more on a high end handmade guitar or vintage Martin, Gibson, Taylor etc. Some high end concert grand pianos sell for over $100k as far as I know.

WhompingWindows 8y ago
I don't think you understand the market for those concert grands. First off, they are into the $250k and above range for true "concert grands." However, the idea that private individuals need to buy one is ludicrous. They are sonically designed for concert halls, even a mansion would not be big enough to properly make use of one. So, take those off the table, they are for the top 100 players, the millionaires/billionaires, and concert halls, not for average serious musicians. Second, it's a bit delusional to say most serious musicians can easily afford 22k Euros on what is essentially an experimental piano. I know dozens of serious amateurs/semi-pros/pros, and basically none of them could afford this instrument. This is a toy for the rich and the superstar musicians who actually get paid creme of the crop wages. The rest of us 99% of the serious pianists who get paid between 0 and 100k a year, lets say, will get much much higher value on 22k euros by buying a used Steinway, Yamaha, or other instrument. Hell, I've been playing classical piano, trained with concertizing pianists, for 20 years and I make great practice use out of a $9k Kawaii bought for $6k.
- markbnj 8y ago
  > Second, it's a bit delusional to say most serious musicians can easily afford 22k Euros on what is essentially an experimental piano. Never said anything of the sort so I am not sure who you are arguing with. I said that it was not surprising for a serious musician to spend 20k+ on an instrument. I think that's a reasonable statement for some definition of "serious." In any case, my general point is that in the world of fine instruments 20k is not an absurd number to hear.

WhompingWindows 8y ago

I don't think you understand the market for those concert grands. First off, they are into the $250k and above range for true "concert grands." However, the idea that private individuals need to buy one is ludicrous. They are sonically designed for concert halls, even a mansion would not be big enough to properly make use of one. So, take those off the table, they are for the top 100 players, the millionaires/billionaires, and concert halls, not for average serious musicians. Second, it's a bit delusional to say most serious musicians can easily afford 22k Euros on what is essentially an experimental piano. I know dozens of serious amateurs/semi-pros/pros, and basically none of them could afford this instrument. This is a toy for the rich and the superstar musicians who actually get paid creme of the crop wages. The rest of us 99% of the serious pianists who get paid between 0 and 100k a year, lets say, will get much much higher value on 22k euros by buying a used Steinway, Yamaha, or other instrument. Hell, I've been playing classical piano, trained with concertizing pianists, for 20 years and I make great practice use out of a $9k Kawaii bought for $6k.

markbnj 8y ago
> Second, it's a bit delusional to say most serious musicians can easily afford 22k Euros on what is essentially an experimental piano. Never said anything of the sort so I am not sure who you are arguing with. I said that it was not surprising for a serious musician to spend 20k+ on an instrument. I think that's a reasonable statement for some definition of "serious." In any case, my general point is that in the world of fine instruments 20k is not an absurd number to hear.