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if you're not using an Ad blocked, start now. or quit pretending you care about safety. sadly there's no middle ground.

by gcb0 8y ago

ryanmarsh 8y ago
Does Brave block it?
jszymborski 8y ago
Slightly tangential, but people like to get on a moral high-ground and posture about content creator revenue, but do I really have to care about people not making a revenue from distributing malware and selling my browsing behaviour that's being tracked across the web? We really need to stop pretending that ad networks are these neutral entities. They are a backdoor that inserted on every website, and I shouldn't have to justify plugging it up, you should have to explain why you've sold my security.
- cozzyd 8y ago
  Do there exist any ad networks that only accept an image from the advertiser and provide any analytics themselves (so you only have to trust the ad network and not the advertiser?)
- mnm1 8y ago
  Not to mention the extreme negative psychological and societal consequences of these ad companies. There's no way ad companies are anything but an extreme negative even if they fix their security and only deliver inert payloads. Ad companies were a sickness for society and individuals in the days of TV and newspapers and they are a sickness now. Starving them out of business could be seen as a moral duty to oneself and a benefit to society. If content creators choose to partner with such ad companies, they should accept their fate, that of the ad companies. Or they can figure out a better business model. It's not up to the rest of society to sacrifice itself and the well-being of the people in the rest of society so some ad men can make billions or for some content creators to put out a bunch of content that's almost certainly just garbage. We in the rest of society, owe these ad men and anyone who aligns with them nothing. They're lucky that as a society we allow their sick, disgusting manipulation of others to continue ... for now.

if you're not using an Ad blocked, start now. or quit pretending you care about safety. sadly there's no middle ground.

by gcb0 8y ago

if you're not using an Ad blocked, start now. or quit pretending you care about safety. sadly there's no middle ground.

ryanmarsh 8y ago

Does Brave block it?

jszymborski 8y ago

Slightly tangential, but people like to get on a moral high-ground and posture about content creator revenue, but do I really have to care about people not making a revenue from distributing malware and selling my browsing behaviour that's being tracked across the web? We really need to stop pretending that ad networks are these neutral entities. They are a backdoor that inserted on every website, and I shouldn't have to justify plugging it up, you should have to explain why you've sold my security.

cozzyd 8y ago
Do there exist any ad networks that only accept an image from the advertiser and provide any analytics themselves (so you only have to trust the ad network and not the advertiser?)
mnm1 8y ago
Not to mention the extreme negative psychological and societal consequences of these ad companies. There's no way ad companies are anything but an extreme negative even if they fix their security and only deliver inert payloads. Ad companies were a sickness for society and individuals in the days of TV and newspapers and they are a sickness now. Starving them out of business could be seen as a moral duty to oneself and a benefit to society. If content creators choose to partner with such ad companies, they should accept their fate, that of the ad companies. Or they can figure out a better business model. It's not up to the rest of society to sacrifice itself and the well-being of the people in the rest of society so some ad men can make billions or for some content creators to put out a bunch of content that's almost certainly just garbage. We in the rest of society, owe these ad men and anyone who aligns with them nothing. They're lucky that as a society we allow their sick, disgusting manipulation of others to continue ... for now.