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I don't have any policy examples offhand, but it will be outlined in the journals copyright transfer agreement (CTA). This is a very common publisher restrictio

I don't have any policy examples offhand, but it will be outlined in the journals copyright transfer agreement (CTA). This is a very common publisher restriction, as I said. I've done work with preprint repos in the past, and this is the raison d'etre behind many of the smaller ones. This is a restriction on authors uploading their papers, not on the repos themselves. Publishers and individual journals can and do put various restrictions on sharing, since they own the copyright after the CTA, not the author. Incidentally, a large proportion of authors seem to be totally unaware they do not own the copyright to their work after signing the CTA.

jessriedel 8y ago
> since they own the copyright after the CTA, not the author. I think you're talking about an old system that effectively no longer operates, at least in the fields where arXiv and arXiv clones have taken off (physics, math, comp sci, chemistry, biology, engineering, many social sciences, and probably more). When you upload to the arXiv, this is typically done before you publish, and you are required to give the arXiv a license to distribute the work in perpetuity. This cannot be revoked by the author when they then go and publish the paper in the journal. The journal can decline to publish a paper that has already been put on the arXiv, and Nature and Science originally tried to do this, but most journals eventually caved and dropped these policies as arXiv usage had become standard. However, in all those restrictions that have been tried to be enforced by journals, I've never heard of any that allow for upload to a pre-print server as long as the server only served a particular field. This is the part of your original comment I found very confusing, and you have certainly not answered me by simply pointing out the existence of CTAs. I've read CTAs, and I've never seen such a clause. And if I scan the (dwindling) number of journals that still reject papers that have been posted on pre-print servers, I can't find any that make the scope of the server a factor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_journals_by_preprint_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_journals_by_p... If you can't point to a particular CTA that has this feature, can you name a journal that you think does, or did in the past?

jessriedel 8y ago

> since they own the copyright after the CTA, not the author. I think you're talking about an old system that effectively no longer operates, at least in the fields where arXiv and arXiv clones have taken off (physics, math, comp sci, chemistry, biology, engineering, many social sciences, and probably more). When you upload to the arXiv, this is typically done before you publish, and you are required to give the arXiv a license to distribute the work in perpetuity. This cannot be revoked by the author when they then go and publish the paper in the journal. The journal can decline to publish a paper that has already been put on the arXiv, and Nature and Science originally tried to do this, but most journals eventually caved and dropped these policies as arXiv usage had become standard. However, in all those restrictions that have been tried to be enforced by journals, I've never heard of any that allow for upload to a pre-print server as long as the server only served a particular field. This is the part of your original comment I found very confusing, and you have certainly not answered me by simply pointing out the existence of CTAs. I've read CTAs, and I've never seen such a clause. And if I scan the (dwindling) number of journals that still reject papers that have been posted on pre-print servers, I can't find any that make the scope of the server a factor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_journals_by_preprint_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_journals_by_p... If you can't point to a particular CTA that has this feature, can you name a journal that you think does, or did in the past?