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Fun fact about Deliveroo. A lot of your drivers aren't the registered driver. It's really common practice for a citizen or someone with a work visa to register
by anonknowsaguy 8y ago
Fun fact about Deliveroo. A lot of your drivers aren't the registered driver. It's really common practice for a citizen or someone with a work visa to register and then rent their phone to someone desperate with no work visa. So your driver is often making almost nothing while someone else sits on their ass and collects cash for doing nothing and then Deliveroo again sits on their ass providing poor service collecting even more cash.
- rubyboss 8y agoSo are you saying there are bands of Deliveroo riders in England who are here on 6-month tourist visas? Or are you saying they are in the country illegaly?
- anonknowsaguy 8y agoI've only seen this happen to people on student visas that permit little or no working hours.
- ams6110 8y agoStudents will do all kinds of "harmless" under the table stuff to get/save a little extra spending money. That's different to me than an person desperate for money to pay rent or buy food.
- anonknowsaguy 8y agoThat's certainly true and they are illegally working. But maybe your image of a student might be a bit narrow? There's a large industry in Europe of language schools. You pay the school/country a few thousand euros/pounds and in return you get a student visa + basic language course. Not all, but many students are coming from pretty bad places in the hope of somehow landing a work visa(Italy and Portugal will grant citizenship if you can prove ancestry for example). The friends of my wife that told me about their lives/this practice, none of them where working for "spending money".
- gdhbcc 8y agoIn portugal you need more than just "ancestry", unless it's relatively close relatives (grandparent). You would need to speak Portuguese, and prove an effective tie to portugal, for example participating in Portuguese cultural activities, groups or organizations
- astura 8y agoI certainly needed to pay rent and buy food when I was a student?
- jdietrich 8y agoIf you're working on a tourist visa, then you're in the country illegally - your visa becomes invalid the minute you start work and you're liable to be deported.
- rubyboss 8y agoAgreed
- iagooar 8y ago> It's really common practice for a citizen or someone with a work visa to register and then rent their phone to someone desperate with no work visa Do humans really have such low morality and ethics? I just can't picture a person who does this to another human being...
- duxup 8y agoI mean most of these delivery type services are basically the first company passing off the usual risk of having a lot of employees onto contractors.... not exactly the same, but not that many steps removed.
- draw_down 8y agoSadly, disavowal doesn’t make it any less true.
- talltimtom 8y agoWhat’s immoral here? You know someone who can’t work so you let him rent your phone so he can work. I mean it’s not respecting the law, but it’s no more immoral than companies renting out cars, houses, or tools used by others to earn a living.
- iagooar 8y agoThe author wrote that some people would make other people do the work, taking a cut. Given, that people who work themselves at Deliveroo already struggle to get a decent salary, then yes, it is immoral.
- vollmond 8y agoThe person with the account is providing a benefit in return for that cut, though -- the account itself and the attached phone. It's not slavery, any more than Amazon taking a cut of sales through their website is. I fail to see how the citizen in this case is harming the non-citizen.
- ddeokbokki 8y ago
- driverdan 8y agoSource?
- maxencecornet 8y agoI have a friend that works for a deliveroo clone in Paris, this is true, loads of people rent their phones to migrants that work for the company under a fake identity