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> eu-hostile populist parties are on the rise everywhere in Europe Populist parties are on the rise, and many of them have made anti-EU noises in the past. How

> eu-hostile populist parties are on the rise everywhere in Europe Populist parties are on the rise, and many of them have made anti-EU noises in the past. However, with Brexit, they've got very quiet about leaving the EU. If Brexit does go ahead, I expect it will be sufficiently unpleasant that no-one else will want to leave.

Cthulhu_ 8y ago
I wouldn't be too sure, some countries might get kicked out - Greece was at risk of that for a while. It's precarious. And there's a big power on the east who would love to see the EU (and the US) destabilize. The UK would fall apart even further after the Brexit; there's likely to be another Scottish referendum and they're likely to leave the UK and rejoin the EU.
- cabalamat 8y ago
  > some countries might get kicked out I don't think this is particularly likely, because the EU doesn't want more countries leaving. Maybe Hungary will, but only if Orban goes completely off the rails. > there's likely to be another Scottish referendum and they're likely to leave the UK and rejoin the EU. Wouldn't surprise me at all. What happens in the UK depends on how chaotic the Brexit process gets.
- robertony 8y ago
  > Greece was at risk of that for a while. Greece actually campaigned for it and the EU imposed more austerity instead.
LoSboccacc 8y ago
we lost enough money to Merkels' and the Deutsche Bank's shenanigans* that we'd still come on par leaving. *like creating the condition for, aggravating and then arbitrating the Greece crisis; like creating a huge slowdown on good consumption driving inflation with quantitative easing; like bargaining with france to turn an eye down their own violations of the stability pact while imposing restriction on anyone else. the EEC was a great idea. the EU, not so much. it's about time it gets soundly reformed. some sources https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2870055/France-and-Germany-smash-Euro-pact.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2870055/France-and-Germa... https://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-went-to-banks-study/a-19234391 https://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-went-to-ba... https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2016/sep/28/quantitative-easing-qe-pernicious-effects-favour-wealthy-tax-middle-class https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2016/sep...

Cthulhu_ 8y ago

I wouldn't be too sure, some countries might get kicked out - Greece was at risk of that for a while. It's precarious. And there's a big power on the east who would love to see the EU (and the US) destabilize. The UK would fall apart even further after the Brexit; there's likely to be another Scottish referendum and they're likely to leave the UK and rejoin the EU.

cabalamat 8y ago
> some countries might get kicked out I don't think this is particularly likely, because the EU doesn't want more countries leaving. Maybe Hungary will, but only if Orban goes completely off the rails. > there's likely to be another Scottish referendum and they're likely to leave the UK and rejoin the EU. Wouldn't surprise me at all. What happens in the UK depends on how chaotic the Brexit process gets.
robertony 8y ago
> Greece was at risk of that for a while. Greece actually campaigned for it and the EU imposed more austerity instead.

LoSboccacc 8y ago

we lost enough money to Merkels' and the Deutsche Bank's shenanigans* that we'd still come on par leaving. *like creating the condition for, aggravating and then arbitrating the Greece crisis; like creating a huge slowdown on good consumption driving inflation with quantitative easing; like bargaining with france to turn an eye down their own violations of the stability pact while imposing restriction on anyone else. the EEC was a great idea. the EU, not so much. it's about time it gets soundly reformed. some sources https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2870055/France-and-Germany-smash-Euro-pact.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2870055/France-and-Germa... https://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-went-to-banks-study/a-19234391 https://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-went-to-ba... https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2016/sep/28/quantitative-easing-qe-pernicious-effects-favour-wealthy-tax-middle-class https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2016/sep...