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There are many many proxy registration methods that allow one to buy a domain in any country, regardless of residency. For instance, the .it domain is intended

There are many many proxy registration methods that allow one to buy a domain in any country, regardless of residency. For instance, the .it domain is intended for Italian residents, but play.it , a CBS owned radio company operates with full complaince. This is not a loss for Brits, but a breach of trust by the .eu registrar. Lesson learnt: never register with .eu domain, for their non-business friendly heavy handedness

midasz 8y ago
> the .it domain is intended for Italian residents Do they have a TOS? Because there is a difference between 'intended' and actual rules. And by using those 'proxy companies' you're still breaking the rules but just being sneaky about it. > a breach of trust by the .eu registrar Really? So because they actually enforce their rules they are 'breaching trust'? You can't get away with breaking the rules so you just crawl into the victim role? Absolute nonsense. https://eurid.eu/media/filer_public/76/48/7648e621-0c5d-4c09-8bde-e5622cb6b23e/registration_policy_en.pdf https://eurid.eu/media/filer_public/76/48/7648e621-0c5d-4c09... In this first step the Registrant must verify whether it meets the General Eligibility Criteria, whereby it must be: (i) an undertaking having its registered office, central administration or principal place of business within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein, or (ii) an organisation established within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein without prejudice to the application of national law, or (iii) a natural person resident within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein.
- benj111 8y ago
  At the time of registering, all those eligibility criteria were met. It isn't unreasonable to let current registrations run their course.
  - midasz 8y ago
    Not really. Trade agreements were also made when the UK was in the EU. It doesn't make sense to let them run their course either? Why so lenient? Choosing to leave a club that allows for certain things is ok, but it's inane to be outraged about not keeping those things when you leave.
    - benj111 8y ago
      My passport says European Union on it, does that suddenly become invalid? I don't expect to be able to get a passport with EU on it for ever, I expect to able to carry on using the one I already have though. I'm sure there are many contracts negotiated between British and EU organisations, under EU law. Should those contracts be ripped up? Renegotiated under British law? That loan that a German company took out from a British bank under EU banking regs. Is that agreement null and void? Both parties lose even more if this turns into a petty tit for tat.
      - midasz 8y ago
        > My passport says European Union on it, does that suddenly become invalid? The passport itself does not become invalid > I don't expect to be able to get a passport with EU on it for ever, I expect to able to carry on using the one I already have though. Sure, however you wouldn't be able to enter Schengen like you do now. You'd be a "third country national" and be treated as such. Instead of "European Union" it could say "Loves Pasta" and it'd carry the same legal weight. > I'm sure there are many contracts negotiated between British and EU organisations, under EU law. Should those contracts be ripped up? Renegotiated under British law? I'd guess so, since they were based on a different situation. They probably didn't account for a situation where there was no free-trade and such. > That loan that a German company took out from a British bank under EU banking regs. Is that agreement null and void? Wholly depends. They'd probably have to renegotiate the regs. > Both parties lose even more if this turns into a petty tit for tat. How is it a petty tit for tat? This is the reality of leaving the EU. I get the feeling brexiteers want all the pro's but none of the con's. It simply cannot work that way. "Why are they being so mean?", it isn't being mean. It's simply a consequence everyone could've known before this shit-show started.
      - Piskvorrr 8y ago
        "We don't want member duties, we want out out out!" "Ok, here's a deal that still leaves you limited rights similar to membership ones, for far fewer duties." "We're not your colony, out out out!" "Sure, we can start from scratch, but you won't get any special treatment meanwhile." "What, no favors? Why this petty tit for tat?"
gioele 8y ago
> For instance, the .it domain is intended for Italian residents This used to be the case decades ago. Now every resident or business of the EU can register a .IT domain: https://www.nic.it/en/faq#t127n81932 https://www.nic.it/en/faq#t127n81932
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- pgc 8y ago
  The CBS is not European. In fact if you visit http://play.it http://play.it from Europe, you're in for a surprise.
  - ahje 8y ago
    > The CBS is not European. In fact if you visit http://play.it http://play.it from Europe, you're in for a surprise. Registrant Organization: MarkMonitor International Limited Address: The Johnson Building 77 Hatton Garden London EC1N 8JS GB Created: 2012-10-24 21:48:52 Last Update: 2016-08-25 19:46:3
    - jarfil 8y ago
      London? That won't be Europe after Brexit. Seems to me like a lot of people will be in for a surprise.
    - michaelt 8y ago
      The "surprise" in this case is play.it forwards you to radio.com which displays "This site isn't currently available in the EU"
  - isostatic 8y ago
    I get a redirect to https://www.radio.com/audio https://www.radio.com/audio and " This site isn't currently available in the EU "

midasz 8y ago

> the .it domain is intended for Italian residents Do they have a TOS? Because there is a difference between 'intended' and actual rules. And by using those 'proxy companies' you're still breaking the rules but just being sneaky about it. > a breach of trust by the .eu registrar Really? So because they actually enforce their rules they are 'breaching trust'? You can't get away with breaking the rules so you just crawl into the victim role? Absolute nonsense. https://eurid.eu/media/filer_public/76/48/7648e621-0c5d-4c09-8bde-e5622cb6b23e/registration_policy_en.pdf https://eurid.eu/media/filer_public/76/48/7648e621-0c5d-4c09... In this first step the Registrant must verify whether it meets the General Eligibility Criteria, whereby it must be: (i) an undertaking having its registered office, central administration or principal place of business within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein, or (ii) an organisation established within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein without prejudice to the application of national law, or (iii) a natural person resident within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein.

benj111 8y ago
At the time of registering, all those eligibility criteria were met. It isn't unreasonable to let current registrations run their course.
- midasz 8y ago
  Not really. Trade agreements were also made when the UK was in the EU. It doesn't make sense to let them run their course either? Why so lenient? Choosing to leave a club that allows for certain things is ok, but it's inane to be outraged about not keeping those things when you leave.
  - benj111 8y ago
    My passport says European Union on it, does that suddenly become invalid? I don't expect to be able to get a passport with EU on it for ever, I expect to able to carry on using the one I already have though. I'm sure there are many contracts negotiated between British and EU organisations, under EU law. Should those contracts be ripped up? Renegotiated under British law? That loan that a German company took out from a British bank under EU banking regs. Is that agreement null and void? Both parties lose even more if this turns into a petty tit for tat.
    - midasz 8y ago
      > My passport says European Union on it, does that suddenly become invalid? The passport itself does not become invalid > I don't expect to be able to get a passport with EU on it for ever, I expect to able to carry on using the one I already have though. Sure, however you wouldn't be able to enter Schengen like you do now. You'd be a "third country national" and be treated as such. Instead of "European Union" it could say "Loves Pasta" and it'd carry the same legal weight. > I'm sure there are many contracts negotiated between British and EU organisations, under EU law. Should those contracts be ripped up? Renegotiated under British law? I'd guess so, since they were based on a different situation. They probably didn't account for a situation where there was no free-trade and such. > That loan that a German company took out from a British bank under EU banking regs. Is that agreement null and void? Wholly depends. They'd probably have to renegotiate the regs. > Both parties lose even more if this turns into a petty tit for tat. How is it a petty tit for tat? This is the reality of leaving the EU. I get the feeling brexiteers want all the pro's but none of the con's. It simply cannot work that way. "Why are they being so mean?", it isn't being mean. It's simply a consequence everyone could've known before this shit-show started.
    - Piskvorrr 8y ago
      "We don't want member duties, we want out out out!" "Ok, here's a deal that still leaves you limited rights similar to membership ones, for far fewer duties." "We're not your colony, out out out!" "Sure, we can start from scratch, but you won't get any special treatment meanwhile." "What, no favors? Why this petty tit for tat?"

gioele 8y ago

> For instance, the .it domain is intended for Italian residents This used to be the case decades ago. Now every resident or business of the EU can register a .IT domain: https://www.nic.it/en/faq#t127n81932 https://www.nic.it/en/faq#t127n81932

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pgc 8y ago
The CBS is not European. In fact if you visit http://play.it http://play.it from Europe, you're in for a surprise.
- ahje 8y ago
  > The CBS is not European. In fact if you visit http://play.it http://play.it from Europe, you're in for a surprise. Registrant Organization: MarkMonitor International Limited Address: The Johnson Building 77 Hatton Garden London EC1N 8JS GB Created: 2012-10-24 21:48:52 Last Update: 2016-08-25 19:46:3
  - jarfil 8y ago
    London? That won't be Europe after Brexit. Seems to me like a lot of people will be in for a surprise.
  - michaelt 8y ago
    The "surprise" in this case is play.it forwards you to radio.com which displays "This site isn't currently available in the EU"
- isostatic 8y ago
  I get a redirect to https://www.radio.com/audio https://www.radio.com/audio and " This site isn't currently available in the EU "