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So much of what you said is just plain inaccurate. For instance, Trump did not say that Mexican judges are incompetent. A case against him before the election

So much of what you said is just plain inaccurate. For instance, Trump did not say that Mexican judges are incompetent. A case against him before the election had a Mexican judge presiding over it and he was afraid that the judge wouldn't be objective due to his wall/the perception that he's racist. That's just one point. Most of the other points you made can be equally refuted or are just ridiculous - "dog whistles," come on. That's code for "they didn't say anything bad but I'm going to interpret bad intentions because I don't like them." I don't like the guy but I hate the lies and misinformation about him more. Not because they're damaging to Trump but because they're harming our democracy itself.

dmode 8y ago
Not a single thing I wrote was inaccurate. From his elevating cases of immigrant crime, to his complete disregard for NFL players peaceful protests, to his calling other countries "shithole", to his pardon of Joe Arpaio, we know who he is and who his supporters are. He is the most dangerous thing to democracy and spread of democratic values in this world and must be handily defeated. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonh...
- joejerryronnie 8y ago
  If the Dems can’t get their shit together and the economy doesn’t tank, we’re in for another four years of Trump.
  - dmode 8y ago
    Dems just flipped 40 seats in the House and 300 in the state legislatures. So there is a strong possibility that Trump will lose. That said, Trump is just a vocal symptom of larger trends in the society. They may be subdued momentarily once Trump is defeated, but they are not going away. He has shown a path forward, and there are others willing to go further. This will be a long fight.
- rudedogg 8y ago
  > we know who he is and who his supporters are I don't think the way forward is to claim half the country is racist. Some of the Trump supporters are, but I feel like it's an easy/unfair explanation for why Trump was elected. It's been talked to death, but Democrats made a lot of mistakes in 2016, and should look inward to try and fix things before 2020. I feel like the things they are focusing on are just making the division worse, and alienating voters they could win over.
  - dmode 8y ago
    I don't think half the country is racist in the traditional sense. But if a supporter tolerates this behavior because they like something else (e.g., tax cut), doesn't that make him or her a willing participant ?
kadendogthing 8y ago
This board is such garbage. >I don't like the guy but I hate the lies and misinformation about him more. Unoriginal talking point. You "not liking" the guy is basically a broken whistle. > A case against him before the election had a Mexican judge presiding over it and he was afraid that the judge wouldn't be objective due to his wall/the perception that he's racist. So rationally the presiding statement you made on the above quote cannot coexist. They're inherently mutually exclusive. But that's neither here nor there. Here's trumps own idiotic words: >Dickerson: Would you have your lawyers say, "Hey, throw this out because the judge is --" >Trump: Well, I may do that now -- we're finding things out now that we didn't know before -- >Dickerson: Because of his Mexican heritage, though -- >Trump: No, but because of other things. I mean because of other things. >Dickerson: You've said you want to reopen -- >Trump: How do you allow a case to proceed when the plaintiff asks to be dismissed from the case? The plaintiff, the one that brought the suit, said, "I don't want to sue anymore. I don't want to sue anymore." They didn't want to sue. You know why they didn't want to? Because she can't win the case. Because she was a disaster. So the lawyers want her dismissed from the case. They go before the judge and he lets her out? Well, he can let her out, but you have to dismiss the case. >Dickerson: Yeah, I guess I'm just still confused how -- what his Mexican parents have to do with that. Let me -- Trump: Excuse me. I want to build a wall. I mean, I don't think it's very confusing. >Dickerson: Well. >Trump: Has nothing to do with anything except common sense. You know, we have to stop being so politically correct in this country. And we need a little more common sense, John. And I'm not blaming. I'm proud of my heritage, we're all proud of our heritage. But I want to build a wall. Now, the Hispanics, many of them like what I'm saying. They're here legally. They don't want people coming and taking their jobs and taking their house and everything else. They don't want that.
- nailer 8y ago
  Unoriginality isn't an response to an argument.

dmode 8y ago

Not a single thing I wrote was inaccurate. From his elevating cases of immigrant crime, to his complete disregard for NFL players peaceful protests, to his calling other countries "shithole", to his pardon of Joe Arpaio, we know who he is and who his supporters are. He is the most dangerous thing to democracy and spread of democratic values in this world and must be handily defeated. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonh...

joejerryronnie 8y ago
If the Dems can’t get their shit together and the economy doesn’t tank, we’re in for another four years of Trump.
- dmode 8y ago
  Dems just flipped 40 seats in the House and 300 in the state legislatures. So there is a strong possibility that Trump will lose. That said, Trump is just a vocal symptom of larger trends in the society. They may be subdued momentarily once Trump is defeated, but they are not going away. He has shown a path forward, and there are others willing to go further. This will be a long fight.
rudedogg 8y ago
> we know who he is and who his supporters are I don't think the way forward is to claim half the country is racist. Some of the Trump supporters are, but I feel like it's an easy/unfair explanation for why Trump was elected. It's been talked to death, but Democrats made a lot of mistakes in 2016, and should look inward to try and fix things before 2020. I feel like the things they are focusing on are just making the division worse, and alienating voters they could win over.
- dmode 8y ago
  I don't think half the country is racist in the traditional sense. But if a supporter tolerates this behavior because they like something else (e.g., tax cut), doesn't that make him or her a willing participant ?

kadendogthing 8y ago

This board is such garbage. >I don't like the guy but I hate the lies and misinformation about him more. Unoriginal talking point. You "not liking" the guy is basically a broken whistle. > A case against him before the election had a Mexican judge presiding over it and he was afraid that the judge wouldn't be objective due to his wall/the perception that he's racist. So rationally the presiding statement you made on the above quote cannot coexist. They're inherently mutually exclusive. But that's neither here nor there. Here's trumps own idiotic words: >Dickerson: Would you have your lawyers say, "Hey, throw this out because the judge is --" >Trump: Well, I may do that now -- we're finding things out now that we didn't know before -- >Dickerson: Because of his Mexican heritage, though -- >Trump: No, but because of other things. I mean because of other things. >Dickerson: You've said you want to reopen -- >Trump: How do you allow a case to proceed when the plaintiff asks to be dismissed from the case? The plaintiff, the one that brought the suit, said, "I don't want to sue anymore. I don't want to sue anymore." They didn't want to sue. You know why they didn't want to? Because she can't win the case. Because she was a disaster. So the lawyers want her dismissed from the case. They go before the judge and he lets her out? Well, he can let her out, but you have to dismiss the case. >Dickerson: Yeah, I guess I'm just still confused how -- what his Mexican parents have to do with that. Let me -- Trump: Excuse me. I want to build a wall. I mean, I don't think it's very confusing. >Dickerson: Well. >Trump: Has nothing to do with anything except common sense. You know, we have to stop being so politically correct in this country. And we need a little more common sense, John. And I'm not blaming. I'm proud of my heritage, we're all proud of our heritage. But I want to build a wall. Now, the Hispanics, many of them like what I'm saying. They're here legally. They don't want people coming and taking their jobs and taking their house and everything else. They don't want that.

nailer 8y ago
Unoriginality isn't an response to an argument.