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Because then they wouldn't be SWATting people then, they would, idk, order 10 pizzas to the place. Does this really need to be asked?

peteretep 8y ago
... yes? We have specific legal terms for death caused by actions where prosecutors don't think they can prove murder, and there's a reason for that
- root_axis 8y ago
  A SWAT team is a heavily armed killsquad. I think conspiracy to murder is pretty apt.
  - peteretep 8y ago
    ... which is presumably at least one reason you’re not a prosecutor
    - root_axis 8y ago
      Well that's a pretty snarky response but it is also devoid of substance.
      - peteretep 8y ago
        How's it devoid of substance? The issue is about the fact that the legal system distinguishes between manslaughter and murder, has different burdens of proof for each, and you've come back and said "well in my opinion it's the same". And that's nice for your opinion, but if you worked in the legal system in any capacity you'd know that the two things are distinct, and the reason they're distinct is there's a difference in burden of proof, and that the layman's wild-ass opinion on things rarely factors in.
        root_axis 8y ago
        It's devoid of substance because it's a sarcastic and condescending quip about whether or not my comments qualify me as a prosecutor in your view. That's not the topic at hand and it's pretty obviously a low quality response meant to insult rather than address what I wrote. Anyway, I'll defer to your credentials as an experienced prosecutor, but it seems pretty reasonable to me that painting an individual as an imminent danger and directing a paramilitary kill squad to their location (resulting in their subsequent execution) is an intentional murder. Obviously, the courts will tease out all the pertinent details but I don't see any details that preclude that possibility.
        peteretep 8y ago
        > but it seems pretty reasonable to me that It seems pretty reasonable to me that everyone should just give me all their money and I should get a pony. But nobody really cares about my opinion there because I am just making shit up, completely devoid of any factual basis. > but I don't see any details that preclude that possibility You are literally working off the linked article that says what charges the prosecutors decided they could probably make stick. Literally, faced with an expert opinion by someone with all the relevant facts, whose job it is to distinguish between these things, you are saying "I don't care because I have my own legal opinions based on my hopes and dreams". This doesn't strike me as materially different from climate change denial or anti-vaxxing.

peteretep 8y ago

... yes? We have specific legal terms for death caused by actions where prosecutors don't think they can prove murder, and there's a reason for that

root_axis 8y ago
A SWAT team is a heavily armed killsquad. I think conspiracy to murder is pretty apt.
- peteretep 8y ago
  ... which is presumably at least one reason you’re not a prosecutor
  - root_axis 8y ago
    Well that's a pretty snarky response but it is also devoid of substance.
    - peteretep 8y ago
      How's it devoid of substance? The issue is about the fact that the legal system distinguishes between manslaughter and murder, has different burdens of proof for each, and you've come back and said "well in my opinion it's the same". And that's nice for your opinion, but if you worked in the legal system in any capacity you'd know that the two things are distinct, and the reason they're distinct is there's a difference in burden of proof, and that the layman's wild-ass opinion on things rarely factors in.
      - root_axis 8y ago
        It's devoid of substance because it's a sarcastic and condescending quip about whether or not my comments qualify me as a prosecutor in your view. That's not the topic at hand and it's pretty obviously a low quality response meant to insult rather than address what I wrote. Anyway, I'll defer to your credentials as an experienced prosecutor, but it seems pretty reasonable to me that painting an individual as an imminent danger and directing a paramilitary kill squad to their location (resulting in their subsequent execution) is an intentional murder. Obviously, the courts will tease out all the pertinent details but I don't see any details that preclude that possibility.
        peteretep 8y ago
        > but it seems pretty reasonable to me that It seems pretty reasonable to me that everyone should just give me all their money and I should get a pony. But nobody really cares about my opinion there because I am just making shit up, completely devoid of any factual basis. > but I don't see any details that preclude that possibility You are literally working off the linked article that says what charges the prosecutors decided they could probably make stick. Literally, faced with an expert opinion by someone with all the relevant facts, whose job it is to distinguish between these things, you are saying "I don't care because I have my own legal opinions based on my hopes and dreams". This doesn't strike me as materially different from climate change denial or anti-vaxxing.