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> Products like Seitan and other "meat texture" items have always done poorly when compared to vegetarian/vegan offerings that simply omit any meat-like ingredi

> Products like Seitan and other "meat texture" items have always done poorly when compared to vegetarian/vegan offerings that simply omit any meat-like ingredients Hm... do non-vegetarians/vegans actually prefer these newer "meat texture" items over the classic veggie ones?

taude 8y ago
I'd say "yes". I tried an impossible burger. It does a pretty good job of imitating meat in a way that my Morninstar and TJ's quinoa and bean burgers don't. However, I don't think I'd choose the fake "meat-like" stuff over the real, if given a choice. (I try to only eat red meat a couple times/month, though, so it's pretty much a treat for me.)
- mehrdadn 8y ago
  The reason I asked is I tried these meat imitations too and I felt I liked some (thought most definitely not all) of the usual soy-based kinds more. Sadly I forget what exactly it was but if I remember correctly MorningStar has been one of the ones I've liked better. So I'm wondering what the actual data on this is like.
  - taude 8y ago
    Just realized that I also not eating my meat-substitute burgers to not eat meat, but to eat more veggies and cut down on that stuff in my diet. Which is probably why I still eat meat. If only a small amount per week (compared to typical SAD diet).
Udik 8y ago
Well, it's just a very personal anecdote here, but I am a non-vegetarian who vastly prefers vegetarian hamburgers to real ones. Because I do try to limit my meat consumption, both for health and for ethical reasons. I also feel "safer" buying and eating stuff that is plant based, for some reason. I think that a lot of people would rather go for the fake option most of the times if the taste and texture were convincing enough.
- mehrdadn 8y ago
  I was asking about the meat-imitation vegetarian ones vs. the classic vegetarian ones. I wasn't asking about normal meat-based ones.
chipotle_coyote 8y ago
Well, as a non-vegetarian, I really like the Impossible Burger, and definitely prefer it to any of the mass-market veggie burgers that are out there like GardenBurger® and friends. I've had from-scratch veggie burgers that I like at least as much, and there are certainly bigger brand names that I still like (Morningstar's black bean patty, IIRC, is one I really enjoyed). But the Impossible Burger isn't just going for "meat texture," it's going for meat flavor, and it's really a kind of different experience/target. So it's more of a "what am I in the mood for" thing than anything else.
hcnews 8y ago
I have been a life-long vegetarian. Since, I never used to eat meat, I don't have a meat craving which people sometimes do when leaving meat behind. I think I may have tried a meat imitation product once but didn't like it very much. I prefer sticky to the spicy, vegetarian food that I am used to :-)

taude 8y ago

I'd say "yes". I tried an impossible burger. It does a pretty good job of imitating meat in a way that my Morninstar and TJ's quinoa and bean burgers don't. However, I don't think I'd choose the fake "meat-like" stuff over the real, if given a choice. (I try to only eat red meat a couple times/month, though, so it's pretty much a treat for me.)

mehrdadn 8y ago
The reason I asked is I tried these meat imitations too and I felt I liked some (thought most definitely not all) of the usual soy-based kinds more. Sadly I forget what exactly it was but if I remember correctly MorningStar has been one of the ones I've liked better. So I'm wondering what the actual data on this is like.
- taude 8y ago
  Just realized that I also not eating my meat-substitute burgers to not eat meat, but to eat more veggies and cut down on that stuff in my diet. Which is probably why I still eat meat. If only a small amount per week (compared to typical SAD diet).

Udik 8y ago

Well, it's just a very personal anecdote here, but I am a non-vegetarian who vastly prefers vegetarian hamburgers to real ones. Because I do try to limit my meat consumption, both for health and for ethical reasons. I also feel "safer" buying and eating stuff that is plant based, for some reason. I think that a lot of people would rather go for the fake option most of the times if the taste and texture were convincing enough.

mehrdadn 8y ago
I was asking about the meat-imitation vegetarian ones vs. the classic vegetarian ones. I wasn't asking about normal meat-based ones.

chipotle_coyote 8y ago

Well, as a non-vegetarian, I really like the Impossible Burger, and definitely prefer it to any of the mass-market veggie burgers that are out there like GardenBurger® and friends. I've had from-scratch veggie burgers that I like at least as much, and there are certainly bigger brand names that I still like (Morningstar's black bean patty, IIRC, is one I really enjoyed). But the Impossible Burger isn't just going for "meat texture," it's going for meat flavor, and it's really a kind of different experience/target. So it's more of a "what am I in the mood for" thing than anything else.

hcnews 8y ago

I have been a life-long vegetarian. Since, I never used to eat meat, I don't have a meat craving which people sometimes do when leaving meat behind. I think I may have tried a meat imitation product once but didn't like it very much. I prefer sticky to the spicy, vegetarian food that I am used to :-)