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While I agree that kids could stand to get out more, I think everyone here is painting an absurdly rosy picture of the past. I'd like to know what percentage of

While I agree that kids could stand to get out more, I think everyone here is painting an absurdly rosy picture of the past. I'd like to know what percentage of kids used to spend their time doing hard labor or if their latchkey existence left them feeling so uncared about that they turned into nihilist assholes. Don't get me wrong – in a perfect world, kids would play outside 8 hours a day, but I have a hard time getting past the selection bias presented in the video.

gambler 8y ago
Except there is hard empirical data showing that something is actually going wrong. Like rapidly rising teenage anxiety, depression and suicide rates.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
  > Like rapidly rising teenage anxiety, depression and suicide rates. Are those symptoms indicative of there being an issue with the kids, or are those the same symptoms in all age groups?
  - aylmao 8y ago
    I gather that it seems to be a growing issue amongst the younger demographics [1]. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/magazine/why-are-more-american-teenagers-than-ever-suffering-from-severe-anxiety.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/magazine/why-are-more-ame...
- airstrike 8y ago
  While I generally agree with the sentiment in this thread and article, it's all gut feeling at this point. The causal relationship is still to be proven, though. There are countless other factors at play.
- asdff 8y ago
  Has sampling bias been ruled out? With people more open to discussing public mental health in recent years, certainly more people have been seeking treatment and diagnoses have probably improved. I would assume historical data strongly under sampled people with mental health issues due to the great stigma and misunderstandings about these diseases.
  - playplay 8y ago
    exactly, data that is not about play does not preclude a potential predominance of play, especially relative to the past
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gambler 8y ago

Except there is hard empirical data showing that something is actually going wrong. Like rapidly rising teenage anxiety, depression and suicide rates.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
> Like rapidly rising teenage anxiety, depression and suicide rates. Are those symptoms indicative of there being an issue with the kids, or are those the same symptoms in all age groups?
- aylmao 8y ago
  I gather that it seems to be a growing issue amongst the younger demographics [1]. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/magazine/why-are-more-american-teenagers-than-ever-suffering-from-severe-anxiety.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/magazine/why-are-more-ame...
airstrike 8y ago
While I generally agree with the sentiment in this thread and article, it's all gut feeling at this point. The causal relationship is still to be proven, though. There are countless other factors at play.
asdff 8y ago
Has sampling bias been ruled out? With people more open to discussing public mental health in recent years, certainly more people have been seeking treatment and diagnoses have probably improved. I would assume historical data strongly under sampled people with mental health issues due to the great stigma and misunderstandings about these diseases.
- playplay 8y ago
  exactly, data that is not about play does not preclude a potential predominance of play, especially relative to the past
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