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I think what you're describing is bureaucracy, red tape, over-regulation and crony capitalism. Protectionism as I understand it would be measures taken to reduc

I think what you're describing is bureaucracy, red tape, over-regulation and crony capitalism. Protectionism as I understand it would be measures taken to reduce competition from outside the country, not within it

cryptonector 8y ago
When the law requires that you get a "certificate of need" in order to build a hospital, that is very much a protectionist measure. Requiring that medical student careers be approximately a decade long is another protectionist requirement. The FDA often functions to protect large players. There is a ton of protectionism in the U.S. healthcare "market".
- vkou 8y ago
  > Requiring that medical student careers be approximately a decade long is another protectionist requirement. No, that's just reflective of how damn difficult it is to distill the body of knowledge required to be a doctor into a brain. Just because you can learn enough Javascript in 24 hours to build an insecure one-page CRUD app with an animated duck, doesn't mean that you can do the same with the human body. It takes years of theory (med school), and years of supervised on-the-job practice (residency), to build up the knowledge and expertise required to give people good medical advice.
  - cryptonector 8y ago
    Medical training in the U.S. requires first a non-medical degree.
    - kkarakk 8y ago
      yeah i remember my cousin telling me about how she -an american citizen educated in private schools her whole life- had to study english for some reason as part of the requirement of becoming a doctor. the pre-med requirements are pretty much stupid garbage
    - vkou 8y ago
      The non-medical bachelor's degree is not the expensive part of becoming a doctor.
      - cryptonector 8y ago
        It sure is expensive though, as it's four years of lost production. Four years' income is a big deal. Cost of opportunity.
  - FireBeyond 8y ago
    > No, that's just reflective of how damn difficult it is to distill the body of knowledge required to be a doctor into a brain. I guess Australian doctors must suck, given that they do it in five years.
    - vkou 8y ago
      If Australian doctors don't do residency, then yes, they probably do.
charlieflowers 8y ago
(Not GP) -- That may be the official definition, but I think he's right in that it is the same exact principle applied at the industry level.
justtopost 8y ago
Aka regulatory capture. You are both correct.

cryptonector 8y ago

When the law requires that you get a "certificate of need" in order to build a hospital, that is very much a protectionist measure. Requiring that medical student careers be approximately a decade long is another protectionist requirement. The FDA often functions to protect large players. There is a ton of protectionism in the U.S. healthcare "market".

vkou 8y ago
> Requiring that medical student careers be approximately a decade long is another protectionist requirement. No, that's just reflective of how damn difficult it is to distill the body of knowledge required to be a doctor into a brain. Just because you can learn enough Javascript in 24 hours to build an insecure one-page CRUD app with an animated duck, doesn't mean that you can do the same with the human body. It takes years of theory (med school), and years of supervised on-the-job practice (residency), to build up the knowledge and expertise required to give people good medical advice.
- cryptonector 8y ago
  Medical training in the U.S. requires first a non-medical degree.
  - kkarakk 8y ago
    yeah i remember my cousin telling me about how she -an american citizen educated in private schools her whole life- had to study english for some reason as part of the requirement of becoming a doctor. the pre-med requirements are pretty much stupid garbage
  - vkou 8y ago
    The non-medical bachelor's degree is not the expensive part of becoming a doctor.
    - cryptonector 8y ago
      It sure is expensive though, as it's four years of lost production. Four years' income is a big deal. Cost of opportunity.
- FireBeyond 8y ago
  > No, that's just reflective of how damn difficult it is to distill the body of knowledge required to be a doctor into a brain. I guess Australian doctors must suck, given that they do it in five years.
  - vkou 8y ago
    If Australian doctors don't do residency, then yes, they probably do.

charlieflowers 8y ago

(Not GP) -- That may be the official definition, but I think he's right in that it is the same exact principle applied at the industry level.

justtopost 8y ago

Aka regulatory capture. You are both correct.