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I happen to think that immigration and customs enforcement is a net positive. I guarantee those people would be as well if they were effected by it personally.

I happen to think that immigration and customs enforcement is a net positive. I guarantee those people would be as well if they were effected by it personally. If you're not personally doing the kind of jobs an illegal immigrant can do for less, then you can only benefit - it lowers the cost to you for many things in your life. As a bonus, you get to pretend that makes you a good person. An episode of South Park addresses this brilliantly, though people conveniently only remember the first part. Time travellers from the future come into South Park and take all the menial jobs. The blue collar americans yell "they took our jerbs!" Randy - a geologist - admonishes them as racists, until he finds out his own white collar positionhas been given to an alien, and then he too is complaining about how they took his job. The day the wealthy Californian tech companies start hiring illegal immigrant developers at a lower cost is the day the echo chamber changes its tune.

IOT_Apprentice 8y ago
Have you heard of outsourcing? Or the term Offshoring? Or Tech Companies using H1B Visas? I mean it is already happening, perhaps you just missed it.
- drankula3 8y ago
  Sure, and there is resistance to that too.
MitchellKnight 8y ago
> I guarantee those people would be as well if they were effected by it personally. That argument goes both ways. If your family was impacted by violence, corruption, and poverty wouldn't you pack up and look for a better life? Don't forget we caused many of these problems. See: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/index.html https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/index.html
- HumanDrivenDev 8y ago
  That argument goes both ways. If your family was impacted by violence, corruption, and poverty wouldn't you pack up and look for a better life? Absolutely, and I would never deny it.
SamReidHughes 8y ago
Not just production. You also compete in consumption. The rent is higher and there is more traffic.

IOT_Apprentice 8y ago

Have you heard of outsourcing? Or the term Offshoring? Or Tech Companies using H1B Visas? I mean it is already happening, perhaps you just missed it.

drankula3 8y ago
Sure, and there is resistance to that too.

MitchellKnight 8y ago

> I guarantee those people would be as well if they were effected by it personally. That argument goes both ways. If your family was impacted by violence, corruption, and poverty wouldn't you pack up and look for a better life? Don't forget we caused many of these problems. See: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/index.html https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/index.html

HumanDrivenDev 8y ago
That argument goes both ways. If your family was impacted by violence, corruption, and poverty wouldn't you pack up and look for a better life? Absolutely, and I would never deny it.

SamReidHughes 8y ago

Not just production. You also compete in consumption. The rent is higher and there is more traffic.