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I'm ready to burn a part of my karma to say the following : - Naming a PL "Julia" is sexist and creepy - The language doesn't add any substantial value to PL

by antpls 8y ago

I'm ready to burn a part of my karma to say the following : - Naming a PL "Julia" is sexist and creepy - The language doesn't add any substantial value to PL theory or programming methodology compared to say, Python - The future of computer-human interaction is not in programming. Python will be good enough until we reach that point where we can use neural networks/AI to do most of the business tasks.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Naming a PL "Julia" is sexist and creepy How? (I kind of assume that a big reason computer scientists would pull out that name without a specific referent in mind is the influence of the Julia set, named for Gaston Julia.) > The language doesn't add any substantial value to PL theory or programming methodology compared to say, Python Maybe; not all practical benefits in programming come from advances in methodology or PL theory. > The future of computer-human interaction is not in programming. I've been hearing that since the early 80s. When someone makes that future reality, we can discuss what it requires, until then programming is what we have and I'm glad it wasn't neglected for the last four decades, and I hope it won't be for the next however many it takes, either.
- mattkrause 8y ago
  I also thought it was related to Gaston Julia or his sets, but apparently not: it was just chosen since it sounds nice (https://www.infoworld.com/article/2616709/application-development/new-julia-language-seeks-to-be-the-c-for-scientists.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2616709/application-develo...)
mattkrause 8y ago
Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the name? Using a human name doesn't seem much stranger than using the name of (say) a comedy troupe or fungus.
ychen306 8y ago
I don't even know or use Julia and find this confusing. - I don't think Python added anything to PL theory or methodology either. At least Julia introduced multiple dispatch to a new audience. - How is the name sexist or creepy?

by antpls 8y ago

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Naming a PL "Julia" is sexist and creepy How? (I kind of assume that a big reason computer scientists would pull out that name without a specific referent in mind is the influence of the Julia set, named for Gaston Julia.) > The language doesn't add any substantial value to PL theory or programming methodology compared to say, Python Maybe; not all practical benefits in programming come from advances in methodology or PL theory. > The future of computer-human interaction is not in programming. I've been hearing that since the early 80s. When someone makes that future reality, we can discuss what it requires, until then programming is what we have and I'm glad it wasn't neglected for the last four decades, and I hope it won't be for the next however many it takes, either.

mattkrause 8y ago
I also thought it was related to Gaston Julia or his sets, but apparently not: it was just chosen since it sounds nice (https://www.infoworld.com/article/2616709/application-development/new-julia-language-seeks-to-be-the-c-for-scientists.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2616709/application-develo...)

mattkrause 8y ago

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the name? Using a human name doesn't seem much stranger than using the name of (say) a comedy troupe or fungus.

ychen306 8y ago

I don't even know or use Julia and find this confusing. - I don't think Python added anything to PL theory or methodology either. At least Julia introduced multiple dispatch to a new audience. - How is the name sexist or creepy?