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>my engineer parents and their parents, who have spent years of hard intellectual labour in their craft, have had almost the same lives as workers engaged in th
by normal_man 8y ago
>my engineer parents and their parents, who have spent years of hard intellectual labour in their craft, have had almost the same lives as workers engaged in the most basic hand labour, who have been coming to their workplace drunk for years and never even faced a danger of unemployment because of their horrible work ethic, because "social country" couldn't allow it.
Good? As long as your parents were comfortable and safe, why is it a problem that less "deserving" people also were? Comments like yours sound less like "hard work deserves success" and more like "as long as I am above someone else, I'm happy." It comes up a lot in discussions of minimum wages - a nurse was fine with $17/hour until a fast food worker also makes that, suddenly it's an outrage.
- freejak 8y agoNext time you're involved in a group project and end up doing all the work while the rest of your team receives the same grade, get back to us on what you just wrote.
- normal_man 8y agoWe're not talking about grades, we're talking about the basics of a dignified life; food, medicine, security. I absolutely will take on more burden to help those who are less fortunate. Get back to us when you grow up and grades aren't your primary concern.
- freejak 8y agoApplies to team projects in the professional world as well. Add to that the slackers that kiss up and get that sweet promotion you wanted based on your blood and sweat. World isn’t so simple like you’ve made it out to be son.
- normal_man 8y agoThe world also doesn't have to be the barbarous rat race you seem to be resigned to, son.
- golergka 8y ago> I absolutely will take on more burden to help those who are less fortunate. Looks like you want to make your own, free will decision about what to do with your money. That's what private charities are for — that way, we both get to decide for ourselves, exercise our choice and you get to feel morally superior (and get the deserved praise), and someone else gets to use their money in other way. When, however, state takes this money from you without giving you any choice over it, using it's monopoly on violence to force you into doing that, that's no longer your moral decision. That's just inevitability.
- normal_man 8y agoAre you one of those "taxation is theft" freaks?
- golergka 8y agoAre you trying to bring this conversation down to labels and slurs?
- golergka 8y agoYes, I am competitive and so are my motivations. Are you trying to paint it as something bad?