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Read to the end...the example the WSJ used was not a normal situation. Shame on them for trying to use this person's story as an example of the "new normal." Ha

by tmp092 8y ago

Read to the end...the example the WSJ used was not a normal situation. Shame on them for trying to use this person's story as an example of the "new normal." Hardly. She used the money to fully buy out her grandfather’s house in San Clemente, Calif. She jointly inherited it with other relatives and said she needed a loan to pay them for their shares of the property.

giarc 8y ago
Read the middle of the article where they clearly state "While that makes up less than 3% of the $1.3 trillion of mortgage originations over that period, the growth is notable because it came as traditional home loans declined."
- tmp092 8y ago
  Unconventional is anything that is not underwritten in a conventional manner. A situation where you inherit a property and take out a mortgage to pay out others with shared inheritance in a property is almost certainly not representative of the underlying reason for the growth in the 3%. If the author is trying to imply a rebirth in reckless lending that caused the last recession then I'm arguing they picked the wrong subject. If it's because they couldn't actually find a subject that definitely should not have been given a mortgage then the entire premise of the article is wrong.
  - giarc 8y ago
    But that doesn't change the fact that this underemployed person still owes $610K.
    - tmp092 8y ago
      It says at the end, she'll rent out the rooms. San Clemente is in prime beach front Orange County. 1) She will be able to rent a single room for at least $750-$1000. 2) The property is in a highly desirable, wealthy area and will likely continue to grow in value over time. 3) Her earnings will grow over time once she graduates.
      - giarc 8y ago
        That's a lot assumptions... 1. that she'll be able to rent the rooms 2. she'll be able to get a job where she lives. I'd be scared s* if my $610K mortgage depended on getting a job and renting out multiple rooms every month.

by tmp092 8y ago

giarc 8y ago

Read the middle of the article where they clearly state "While that makes up less than 3% of the $1.3 trillion of mortgage originations over that period, the growth is notable because it came as traditional home loans declined."

tmp092 8y ago
Unconventional is anything that is not underwritten in a conventional manner. A situation where you inherit a property and take out a mortgage to pay out others with shared inheritance in a property is almost certainly not representative of the underlying reason for the growth in the 3%. If the author is trying to imply a rebirth in reckless lending that caused the last recession then I'm arguing they picked the wrong subject. If it's because they couldn't actually find a subject that definitely should not have been given a mortgage then the entire premise of the article is wrong.
- giarc 8y ago
  But that doesn't change the fact that this underemployed person still owes $610K.
  - tmp092 8y ago
    It says at the end, she'll rent out the rooms. San Clemente is in prime beach front Orange County. 1) She will be able to rent a single room for at least $750-$1000. 2) The property is in a highly desirable, wealthy area and will likely continue to grow in value over time. 3) Her earnings will grow over time once she graduates.
    - giarc 8y ago
      That's a lot assumptions... 1. that she'll be able to rent the rooms 2. she'll be able to get a job where she lives. I'd be scared s* if my $610K mortgage depended on getting a job and renting out multiple rooms every month.