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If your institution does offer f1000 subscription, I suggest you take a look at f1000 workspace.

carbocation 8y ago
Thanks for the recommendation. The features look interesting, and it supports my basic requirement (adding citations to Google Docs).
black_puppydog 8y ago
Apart from it being domain specific (according to wikipedia) it is also not open source, so recommending this as a reaction to the Mendeley news is... words fail me... :|
- leemailll 8y ago
  What do you mean "domain specific"? Personal subscription is also available. And of the popular online reference managers, I don't think open source by itself certify anything related to the core functions of a reference manager. In my opinion, the really established open source ref manager is BibTeX, however, its user base is quite limited even inside academy to specific fields.
  - black_puppydog 8y ago
    Wikipedia on f1000 workspace: > It includes a Word plug-in, from which you're able to directly search PubMed [...] That sounds like it's at least focusing on medicine as a field (and generally fields in which Word documents are an acceptable means of dissemination...) Regarding open source: Being open source is certainly not core to the functionality of a reference manager. But it does protect you from exactly the kind of behaviour shown by Mendeley here. So recommending a "solution" for the situation that has exactly the same drawback as the Mendeley (i.e. vendor lock-in) is short-sighted in the extreme.
andrepd 8y ago
Hmm, I thought this would be a lesson to illustrate what happens when you depend on proprietary software...
ramraj07 8y ago
This is literally the worst thing you can do. Even a tenured professor doesn't seem to stay in the same institution for their lifetime nowadays so why would you go to a service that even you personally cannot pay for yourself (reasonably)?
- bocklund 8y ago
  It's $10/month for premium? https://f1000workspace.com/#plans https://f1000workspace.com/#plans
  - leemailll 8y ago
    And online storage space is unlimited https://guides.lib.unc.edu/comparecitationmanagers https://guides.lib.unc.edu/comparecitationmanagers
- leemailll 8y ago
  F1000 offers tools to transfer an account to another email address. Why this makes you think it is "the worst thing you can do"?
boyband6666 8y ago
I gave this a try, but sadly it came up short. For writing a single paper of MSc Thesis, it might work. However it just doesn't seem suited for handling a large number of references for a variety of projects, which get called on frequently as standard references in papers, reference material, and much more. If it helps I have just under 2000 papers in my Zotero. It isn't massive by research standards, but it is substantial.
- leemailll 8y ago
  Try to group into different projects in F1000. One thing I still don't like about F1000 is the reference manager need to go online for entries, so it kind of slow on first call. By the way, i don't how you cite when writing, but for me, I mostly handle that part after I finish the writing. At the places citations needed in the manuscript, I often just put a mark saying #somebody's paper on somethin#, and then do the job all the once. There always some really prolific guys make the citation search taking too much time to break to flow.

Thanks for the recommendation. The features look interesting, and it supports my basic requirement (adding citations to Google Docs).

black_puppydog 8y ago

Apart from it being domain specific (according to wikipedia) it is also not open source, so recommending this as a reaction to the Mendeley news is... words fail me... :|

leemailll 8y ago
What do you mean "domain specific"? Personal subscription is also available. And of the popular online reference managers, I don't think open source by itself certify anything related to the core functions of a reference manager. In my opinion, the really established open source ref manager is BibTeX, however, its user base is quite limited even inside academy to specific fields.
- black_puppydog 8y ago
  Wikipedia on f1000 workspace: > It includes a Word plug-in, from which you're able to directly search PubMed [...] That sounds like it's at least focusing on medicine as a field (and generally fields in which Word documents are an acceptable means of dissemination...) Regarding open source: Being open source is certainly not core to the functionality of a reference manager. But it does protect you from exactly the kind of behaviour shown by Mendeley here. So recommending a "solution" for the situation that has exactly the same drawback as the Mendeley (i.e. vendor lock-in) is short-sighted in the extreme.

andrepd 8y ago

Hmm, I thought this would be a lesson to illustrate what happens when you depend on proprietary software...

ramraj07 8y ago

This is literally the worst thing you can do. Even a tenured professor doesn't seem to stay in the same institution for their lifetime nowadays so why would you go to a service that even you personally cannot pay for yourself (reasonably)?

bocklund 8y ago
It's $10/month for premium? https://f1000workspace.com/#plans https://f1000workspace.com/#plans
- leemailll 8y ago
  And online storage space is unlimited https://guides.lib.unc.edu/comparecitationmanagers https://guides.lib.unc.edu/comparecitationmanagers
leemailll 8y ago
F1000 offers tools to transfer an account to another email address. Why this makes you think it is "the worst thing you can do"?

boyband6666 8y ago

I gave this a try, but sadly it came up short. For writing a single paper of MSc Thesis, it might work. However it just doesn't seem suited for handling a large number of references for a variety of projects, which get called on frequently as standard references in papers, reference material, and much more. If it helps I have just under 2000 papers in my Zotero. It isn't massive by research standards, but it is substantial.

leemailll 8y ago
Try to group into different projects in F1000. One thing I still don't like about F1000 is the reference manager need to go online for entries, so it kind of slow on first call. By the way, i don't how you cite when writing, but for me, I mostly handle that part after I finish the writing. At the places citations needed in the manuscript, I often just put a mark saying #somebody's paper on somethin#, and then do the job all the once. There always some really prolific guys make the citation search taking too much time to break to flow.