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> Chrome made web browsing/dev pleasant like Firefox/Firebug did and it really took off being based on Webkit like Safari which also worked well on mobile. Thi

by aylmao 8y ago

> Chrome made web browsing/dev pleasant like Firefox/Firebug did and it really took off being based on Webkit like Safari which also worked well on mobile. This is the big one for me. When I'm not developing I actually prefer to use Safari-- I like it's interface better and it feels more at home in macOS. It's "good enough" too. What I'm really a user of is the Chrome Dev Tools. Firefox's are looking quite solid lately but I just haven't switched over.

MarsAscendant 8y ago
What I'd love is to have Firefox dev tools functionality in Chrome. Firefox highlights the edge lines of the selected element automatically, and in all directions (if I recall correctly). I have to use an extension – VisBug – to achieve that in Chrome. There's also the fonts window, which lets you in on what fonts are used on the page, and lets you modify the selected element's font settings – size, weight, slant/italic etc.. I pay a lot of attention to typography, so that part is important to me.
- bad_user 8y ago
  Why not just use Firefox?
  - MarsAscendant 8y ago
    My liking one thing about Firefox needn't entail my wanting to use the whole browser.
    - Zardoz84 8y ago
      you should try it again.
    - bad_user 8y ago
      There's plenty to like about Firefox, like the Awesome Bar, has better bookmarking, is able to handle a huge number of tabs, has the "Multi-Account Containers" extension (with its offspring, e.g. "Facebook Container"), or the "Tree Style Tab" extension, just to name a few. Also that it's not Chrome or based on Chromium is reason alone to like Firefox, because we need diversity for healthy web standards. That Chromium is open source is a red herring and open standards are more important. I know developers have been preferring Chrome and for good reasons, but I've switched back to Firefox for the last 3 years and personally I find it hard to use Chrome these days, because Firefox has a better UI. The only downside is that Chrome's dev tools still has some capabilities that Firefox lacks, but Firefox has been improving a lot, as you have seen.
      - MarsAscendant 8y ago
        ...and that's why I don't take part in the discussion about browsers. It's gotten political. You advertise shit to me, when I didn't ask you to. I tried Firefox for a month. I didn't like it. I went back to a Chromium fork. Now go away.
        youwishboye 8y ago
        wow, what a pretentious asshole
        CalRobert 8y ago
        A person politely making some points in favour of Firefox in a discussion about browsers does not merit a rude response.
        MarsAscendant 8y ago
        1. I never asked for any of that response, nor did the situation imply that I needed to learn about the points stated to make a better decision. 2. There's a general passive-combative conversation about browsers going on ("I like Firefox, I don't get why people like Chrome" and vice versa) that I never wanted to be a part of, mostly because of how disrespectful and counterproductive it is. 3. In a thread about ad-blocking, I got what is effectively an ad for Firefox. I don't want any of this nonsense on my side of the table. "Use my product because I value it!" No, go away, I don't need this. My choices are rarely uninformed. I spend time considering what to pick where I'm able to. I'd like my choices to be respected as such – not have my face plastered with someone else's unprompted opinion. Here's an example of a better conversation: – I liked this part of Firefox, and I wish it was in Chrome too. – Do you not like Firefox whole, then? If so, why? – Because of X, Y, and Z. I used it intensely for a month or so, so I got a good look at the way it behaves. I know X is solvable, but not Y or Z (I tried), and they're critical to my browsing experience. – Okay, I see. I hope you consider (browser diversity, or whatever issues using Firefox's supposed to solve), because they're important. – Oh yeah? Can you tell me why? ...and so on. A respectful conversation that sparks curiosity and provides context, without annoying any of the parties in the process. Otherwise, you get what you give. Seems a fair approach to me.

by aylmao 8y ago

MarsAscendant 8y ago

What I'd love is to have Firefox dev tools functionality in Chrome. Firefox highlights the edge lines of the selected element automatically, and in all directions (if I recall correctly). I have to use an extension – VisBug – to achieve that in Chrome. There's also the fonts window, which lets you in on what fonts are used on the page, and lets you modify the selected element's font settings – size, weight, slant/italic etc.. I pay a lot of attention to typography, so that part is important to me.

bad_user 8y ago
Why not just use Firefox?
- MarsAscendant 8y ago
  My liking one thing about Firefox needn't entail my wanting to use the whole browser.
  - Zardoz84 8y ago
    you should try it again.
  - bad_user 8y ago
    There's plenty to like about Firefox, like the Awesome Bar, has better bookmarking, is able to handle a huge number of tabs, has the "Multi-Account Containers" extension (with its offspring, e.g. "Facebook Container"), or the "Tree Style Tab" extension, just to name a few. Also that it's not Chrome or based on Chromium is reason alone to like Firefox, because we need diversity for healthy web standards. That Chromium is open source is a red herring and open standards are more important. I know developers have been preferring Chrome and for good reasons, but I've switched back to Firefox for the last 3 years and personally I find it hard to use Chrome these days, because Firefox has a better UI. The only downside is that Chrome's dev tools still has some capabilities that Firefox lacks, but Firefox has been improving a lot, as you have seen.
    - MarsAscendant 8y ago
      ...and that's why I don't take part in the discussion about browsers. It's gotten political. You advertise shit to me, when I didn't ask you to. I tried Firefox for a month. I didn't like it. I went back to a Chromium fork. Now go away.
      - youwishboye 8y ago
        wow, what a pretentious asshole
      - CalRobert 8y ago
        A person politely making some points in favour of Firefox in a discussion about browsers does not merit a rude response.
        MarsAscendant 8y ago
        1. I never asked for any of that response, nor did the situation imply that I needed to learn about the points stated to make a better decision. 2. There's a general passive-combative conversation about browsers going on ("I like Firefox, I don't get why people like Chrome" and vice versa) that I never wanted to be a part of, mostly because of how disrespectful and counterproductive it is. 3. In a thread about ad-blocking, I got what is effectively an ad for Firefox. I don't want any of this nonsense on my side of the table. "Use my product because I value it!" No, go away, I don't need this. My choices are rarely uninformed. I spend time considering what to pick where I'm able to. I'd like my choices to be respected as such – not have my face plastered with someone else's unprompted opinion. Here's an example of a better conversation: – I liked this part of Firefox, and I wish it was in Chrome too. – Do you not like Firefox whole, then? If so, why? – Because of X, Y, and Z. I used it intensely for a month or so, so I got a good look at the way it behaves. I know X is solvable, but not Y or Z (I tried), and they're critical to my browsing experience. – Okay, I see. I hope you consider (browser diversity, or whatever issues using Firefox's supposed to solve), because they're important. – Oh yeah? Can you tell me why? ...and so on. A respectful conversation that sparks curiosity and provides context, without annoying any of the parties in the process. Otherwise, you get what you give. Seems a fair approach to me.