Yea, as I said, Moose looks pretty good. And I realize perl has changed itself. Today it looks like the biggest issue with perl5 is you need a page long pream

Yea, as I said, Moose looks pretty good. And I realize perl has changed itself. Today it looks like the biggest issue with perl5 is you need a page long preamble [1] to get a relatively modern language. [1] Use statements to bring in the right libraries, turn off bad defaults, turn on needed features, etc. Stuff that is the default behavior in today's languages.