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Ah, no. Black Israelites (weird sect) yelled racist stuff at the kids, which is not ok. Phillips moved in, drumming and chanting. The kids smugged up and start

Ah, no. Black Israelites (weird sect) yelled racist stuff at the kids, which is not ok. Phillips moved in, drumming and chanting. The kids smugged up and started racist chants and dancing. The black Israelites and the kids were the assholes. The kid is obviously doing the whole "I'm not touching you" thing, but he is very much antagonizing Phillips in the (full) video.

colordrops 8y ago
I don't really want to get into a debate about the details around who was right and wrong during this conflagration, but to the point of this discussion, the teenager is not a fascist nazi for being quietly smug to someone who got up in his face with a drum.
- panarky 8y ago
  People can be intolerant without being "fascist nazis" which is the entire point of this thread. The initial assessment of the viral video were incorrect, and there's been an outpouring of mea culpas from media personalities. But that error does NOT mean these kids are tolerant and accepting of differences in race, ethnicity, religion, sexuality, etc. Indeed, the actions of these kids shows a high degree of intolerance. The paradox of tolerance means that tolerant people should NOT tolerate the intolerant.
  - weberc2 8y ago
    Why are the kids guilty until proven innocent? Why are so many people so desperate to rationalize intolerance toward children? They probably got their first dose of hostile, overt racism and, presumably having never been taught how to handle such a situation) thought this Native American guy was trying to antagonize them as well, and they responded in kind. Not the best way to handle it, but not the worst considering their age and the circumstances. A charitable and likely interpretation is that Phillips and the kids mistook each other’s intentions. Neither the children nor the adult handled it perfectly.
    - KozmoNau7 8y ago
      They jumped around in mock tribal dance, doing mock chants, while laughing and jeering. They were quite obviously mocking his heritage, his culture and his religion, adding to a long history of oppression that includes literal genocide. No matter what these kids heard from the black Hebrew israelites, there is no excuse for their behavior. Add to this the videos that have surfaced of these kids (including many of the same kids from the first video) unprovokedly jeering at young women that "rape doesn't count if you like it" and similar misogynistic statements, it is abundantly clear that these kids are indeed bigots and should be strongly reprimanded for their behavior, not given speaking time on national TV.
- KozmoNau7 8y ago
  His attitude and the actions of his schoolmates, while wearing MAGA hats (well-connected to white privilege and racism now) are evidence of enormous and smug privilege. He knows that he is pretty much untouchable, as a white male coming from a wealthy family with connections, the system has been rigged in his favor for centuries. His look is one of bemused contempt, "look at this silly man with his drum, doesn't he know that I can do whatever I want?" There are centuries of racial and cultural tension at play, which must not be ignored.
  - weberc2 8y ago
    This is the most racist thing I think I’ve ever read on HN and directed at a minor...

colordrops 8y ago

I don't really want to get into a debate about the details around who was right and wrong during this conflagration, but to the point of this discussion, the teenager is not a fascist nazi for being quietly smug to someone who got up in his face with a drum.

panarky 8y ago
People can be intolerant without being "fascist nazis" which is the entire point of this thread. The initial assessment of the viral video were incorrect, and there's been an outpouring of mea culpas from media personalities. But that error does NOT mean these kids are tolerant and accepting of differences in race, ethnicity, religion, sexuality, etc. Indeed, the actions of these kids shows a high degree of intolerance. The paradox of tolerance means that tolerant people should NOT tolerate the intolerant.
- weberc2 8y ago
  Why are the kids guilty until proven innocent? Why are so many people so desperate to rationalize intolerance toward children? They probably got their first dose of hostile, overt racism and, presumably having never been taught how to handle such a situation) thought this Native American guy was trying to antagonize them as well, and they responded in kind. Not the best way to handle it, but not the worst considering their age and the circumstances. A charitable and likely interpretation is that Phillips and the kids mistook each other’s intentions. Neither the children nor the adult handled it perfectly.
  - KozmoNau7 8y ago
    They jumped around in mock tribal dance, doing mock chants, while laughing and jeering. They were quite obviously mocking his heritage, his culture and his religion, adding to a long history of oppression that includes literal genocide. No matter what these kids heard from the black Hebrew israelites, there is no excuse for their behavior. Add to this the videos that have surfaced of these kids (including many of the same kids from the first video) unprovokedly jeering at young women that "rape doesn't count if you like it" and similar misogynistic statements, it is abundantly clear that these kids are indeed bigots and should be strongly reprimanded for their behavior, not given speaking time on national TV.
KozmoNau7 8y ago
His attitude and the actions of his schoolmates, while wearing MAGA hats (well-connected to white privilege and racism now) are evidence of enormous and smug privilege. He knows that he is pretty much untouchable, as a white male coming from a wealthy family with connections, the system has been rigged in his favor for centuries. His look is one of bemused contempt, "look at this silly man with his drum, doesn't he know that I can do whatever I want?" There are centuries of racial and cultural tension at play, which must not be ignored.
- weberc2 8y ago
  This is the most racist thing I think I’ve ever read on HN and directed at a minor...