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Yet I can still not read CPU core temperatures of my ryzen 2600 on Linux (5.0-rc2). I am not sure what is going on but I think next time I'll go with Intel agai

Yet I can still not read CPU core temperatures of my ryzen 2600 on Linux (5.0-rc2). I am not sure what is going on but I think next time I'll go with Intel again. I read this may be related to some NDA by AMD but not sure.

vardump 8y ago
Perhaps someone could just reverse engineer what the Windows driver does to get the values. It could be a nice way to learn a tool like Binary Ninja or IDA (pro). It's probably some DeviceIoControl call. Once you know the call 12-bit (I think?) ID from userland code, it should be relatively straightforward to follow the driver code to see where it ends up and what hardware registers it uses. Or maybe it's just something through ACPI?
opencl 8y ago
Temperature monitoring for the first gen Ryzen chips has been in the kernel for about a year. The patch for second gen is there but narrowly missed the 5.0 release window, so it should land in the first release after 5.0. Intel is a bit faster about this but it's not like they have perfect day 1 kernel support either. i.e. temperature monitoring drivers for both first gen Ryzen and Coffee Lake landed in 4.15. At the time Ryzen was almost a year old and Coffee Lake was about half a year old. http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.0/01237.html?print=anzwix http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.0/01237.html?...
- silotis 8y ago
  Based on personal experience temperature monitoring on Coffee Lake worked just fine with 4.14. I'm pretty sure there hasn't been a breaking change in Intel's interface for this since at least Sandy Bridge.
  - opencl 8y ago
    Interesting, 4.15 had a patch specifically for Coffee Lake thermal support. Maybe it was specific to the mobile chips. http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1711.2/00864.html http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1711.2/00864.html
- chrisper 8y ago
  Thanks. It's not easy to find information like this. How did you find it?
  - opencl 8y ago
    I just Googled "ryzen temperature monitoring linux". I've had a Ryzen 1700 since they first came out so I was following the Linux support for that fairly closely at the time, mostly by browsing Phoronix fairly frequently. Thankfully after a few months I didn't need to because things were working pretty well by then, other than the thermal monitoring that took quite a while to land. Linux and brand new hardware rarely seem to get along well regardless of the vendor unfortunately.
- AsyncAwait 8y ago
  Phoronix[1] is usually good at monitoring Linux hardware news. 1 - https://www.phoronix.com https://www.phoronix.com
wstuartcl 8y ago
just when AMD looks like they will be the safe bet on CPU for the next few years you bolt? =)
- chrisper 8y ago
  It's not like I'll upgrade any time soon. A lot can happen in all those years! I'll see

vardump 8y ago

Perhaps someone could just reverse engineer what the Windows driver does to get the values. It could be a nice way to learn a tool like Binary Ninja or IDA (pro). It's probably some DeviceIoControl call. Once you know the call 12-bit (I think?) ID from userland code, it should be relatively straightforward to follow the driver code to see where it ends up and what hardware registers it uses. Or maybe it's just something through ACPI?

opencl 8y ago

Temperature monitoring for the first gen Ryzen chips has been in the kernel for about a year. The patch for second gen is there but narrowly missed the 5.0 release window, so it should land in the first release after 5.0. Intel is a bit faster about this but it's not like they have perfect day 1 kernel support either. i.e. temperature monitoring drivers for both first gen Ryzen and Coffee Lake landed in 4.15. At the time Ryzen was almost a year old and Coffee Lake was about half a year old. http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.0/01237.html?print=anzwix http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.0/01237.html?...

silotis 8y ago
Based on personal experience temperature monitoring on Coffee Lake worked just fine with 4.14. I'm pretty sure there hasn't been a breaking change in Intel's interface for this since at least Sandy Bridge.
- opencl 8y ago
  Interesting, 4.15 had a patch specifically for Coffee Lake thermal support. Maybe it was specific to the mobile chips. http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1711.2/00864.html http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1711.2/00864.html
chrisper 8y ago
Thanks. It's not easy to find information like this. How did you find it?
- opencl 8y ago
  I just Googled "ryzen temperature monitoring linux". I've had a Ryzen 1700 since they first came out so I was following the Linux support for that fairly closely at the time, mostly by browsing Phoronix fairly frequently. Thankfully after a few months I didn't need to because things were working pretty well by then, other than the thermal monitoring that took quite a while to land. Linux and brand new hardware rarely seem to get along well regardless of the vendor unfortunately.
AsyncAwait 8y ago
Phoronix[1] is usually good at monitoring Linux hardware news. 1 - https://www.phoronix.com https://www.phoronix.com

wstuartcl 8y ago

just when AMD looks like they will be the safe bet on CPU for the next few years you bolt? =)

chrisper 8y ago
It's not like I'll upgrade any time soon. A lot can happen in all those years! I'll see