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I own at 5 Dyson products, most of them from manufacturer refurbished programs (otherwise it's way out of my expenditure range for appliances). They are at bes

by devy 8y ago

I own at 5 Dyson products, most of them from manufacturer refurbished programs (otherwise it's way out of my expenditure range for appliances). They are at best overrated. Take an example of Cyclone Vacuum, the brand newer Hoover cyclone vacs sold at HomeDepot I got last Black Friday for $70 is working as good but it's at least 4x cheaper. Their air circulation fan/heater isn't as great as 5x of the price tag than competitors. Same with their blowdryers. In short, they are hugely overpriced. Oh and, they use cheap plastic too - the air vent stand got cracked on winter and again the replacement parts are a fortune to buy.

CaveTech 8y ago
Product pricing isn't linear with features/abilities. If you want the best X per $ spent you'll almost always arrive at lower quality version. There are premiums to be paid for even minor improvements.
- devy 8y ago
  Truth of the matter is, Dyson doesn't have any major feature ability their competitor cannot copy. Sure their patented electric motor design might be more advanced 10 years ago, but not any more! IMO, Tesla makes most advanced electric motors in the planet, since Tesla open their patent portfolio, many Taiwanese ODMs are making them cheaply available. I am not even not talking about knockoffs. Dyson lost their edges.
  - clouddrover 8y ago
    > IMO, Tesla makes most advanced electric motors in the planet I'd say BMW's Formula E motor is better than Tesla's motors today: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0288425EN/the-bmw-ife-18-drivetrain:-unprecedented-teamwork-between-motorsport-and-production-development?language=en https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T028842... It's not a completely valid comparison because it's a racing motor, but it will be the basis of the motor used in BMW's future production cars. We'll have to wait to see how good the production version is. And by the time it comes out Tesla may also have improved their motor.
- AJ007 8y ago
  In this case its $ paid for marketing.
chaostheory 8y ago
> They are at best overrated. Maybe now they are, but at the time Dyson started getting popular, most vacuum cleaners (Hoovers included) were bag based. The Dyson performance felt revolutionary in comparison. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hoover design was based somewhat off Dyson's. I do know that Shark and Dyson had a IP fight a few years back
writepub 8y ago
After you bought your first Dyson product, and realized all this, why did you buy 4 others? It appears like their branding and marketing worked as designed, if you bought 4 more of their products, despite the pricing. BTW - everything you said about Dyson applies to Apple. There's more to branding, pricing & sales than the bill-of-materials and quality

by devy 8y ago

CaveTech 8y ago

Product pricing isn't linear with features/abilities. If you want the best X per $ spent you'll almost always arrive at lower quality version. There are premiums to be paid for even minor improvements.

devy 8y ago
Truth of the matter is, Dyson doesn't have any major feature ability their competitor cannot copy. Sure their patented electric motor design might be more advanced 10 years ago, but not any more! IMO, Tesla makes most advanced electric motors in the planet, since Tesla open their patent portfolio, many Taiwanese ODMs are making them cheaply available. I am not even not talking about knockoffs. Dyson lost their edges.
- clouddrover 8y ago
  > IMO, Tesla makes most advanced electric motors in the planet I'd say BMW's Formula E motor is better than Tesla's motors today: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0288425EN/the-bmw-ife-18-drivetrain:-unprecedented-teamwork-between-motorsport-and-production-development?language=en https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T028842... It's not a completely valid comparison because it's a racing motor, but it will be the basis of the motor used in BMW's future production cars. We'll have to wait to see how good the production version is. And by the time it comes out Tesla may also have improved their motor.
AJ007 8y ago
In this case its $ paid for marketing.

chaostheory 8y ago

> They are at best overrated. Maybe now they are, but at the time Dyson started getting popular, most vacuum cleaners (Hoovers included) were bag based. The Dyson performance felt revolutionary in comparison. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hoover design was based somewhat off Dyson's. I do know that Shark and Dyson had a IP fight a few years back

writepub 8y ago

After you bought your first Dyson product, and realized all this, why did you buy 4 others? It appears like their branding and marketing worked as designed, if you bought 4 more of their products, despite the pricing. BTW - everything you said about Dyson applies to Apple. There's more to branding, pricing & sales than the bill-of-materials and quality