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I don't understand the arrogance and the stubbornness of Apple to keep that stupid Touch Bar. They have completely lost me as a customer because I absolutely re

I don't understand the arrogance and the stubbornness of Apple to keep that stupid Touch Bar. They have completely lost me as a customer because I absolutely refuse to buy a Macbook Pro until they give me the OPTION of a regular keyboard. The fact they are arrogant enough to think they don't need to provide me with the option makes me angry as a consumer, and I'm about to ditch it completely at this point and go to a Surface Pro.

samdixon 8y ago
Touchbar would be really cool if they would just move it up a slot and re-implement the fn row side by side.
- xutopia 8y ago
  But then... what would the Touchbar offer that the keys don't already?
  - QML 8y ago
    There’s more usage to the touchbar than replicating the media controls of the fn keys. For example if you wanted to smoothly scrub through a video, a continuous Touch Bar would make more sense than two discrete keys.
  - coryfklein 8y ago
    An ancillary lighted display that distracts you with bright colored buttons when you're trying to watch Netflix.
komali2 8y ago
How dare you use the machine Wrong. Doff your turtleneck, peasant. Apple does, and everyone else listens. Even after making fun of apple... Headphone jack and the stupid fucking notch are the best example of companies falling over themselves to be like Apple.
wooly_bully 8y ago
I'm frustrated being on a 2016-era MB Air and feeling like I don't anything to upgrade to without a touchbar now. Once this machine kicks the bucket, I may just buy another of the same one instead of upgrading (if they still sell it by then).
- rz2k 8y ago
  You're in luck, since the 2018 MacBook Air has function keys instead of a touchbar! It's also a little bit faster and now has a high resolution retina display. It even still has a headphone port. https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/?afid=p238%7Cs4WPpCdN2-dt_mtid_20925top39173_pcrid_307882469720&cid=wwa-us-kwgo-mac-slid-- https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/?afid=p238%7Cs4WPpCdN2-dt_... https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-comparison-chart/?compare=all-intel-macs&highlight=0&prod1=MacBookAir031&prod2=MacBookAir035&prod3=MacBookPro098 https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-comparison-chart/?compare=...
  - saagarjha 8y ago
    Every Mac has a headphone port.
    - rz2k 8y ago
      The press around Apple products has been concerned about them disappearing with the push for AirPods. Some articles chose to make the distinction that it wouldn't happen unless they added a Lightning port to the MacBooks, but the latest iPad Pro went from both a Lightning port and a headphone jack to neither one.

samdixon 8y ago

Touchbar would be really cool if they would just move it up a slot and re-implement the fn row side by side.

xutopia 8y ago
But then... what would the Touchbar offer that the keys don't already?
- QML 8y ago
  There’s more usage to the touchbar than replicating the media controls of the fn keys. For example if you wanted to smoothly scrub through a video, a continuous Touch Bar would make more sense than two discrete keys.
- coryfklein 8y ago
  An ancillary lighted display that distracts you with bright colored buttons when you're trying to watch Netflix.

komali2 8y ago

How dare you use the machine Wrong. Doff your turtleneck, peasant. Apple does, and everyone else listens. Even after making fun of apple... Headphone jack and the stupid fucking notch are the best example of companies falling over themselves to be like Apple.

wooly_bully 8y ago

I'm frustrated being on a 2016-era MB Air and feeling like I don't anything to upgrade to without a touchbar now. Once this machine kicks the bucket, I may just buy another of the same one instead of upgrading (if they still sell it by then).

rz2k 8y ago
You're in luck, since the 2018 MacBook Air has function keys instead of a touchbar! It's also a little bit faster and now has a high resolution retina display. It even still has a headphone port. https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/?afid=p238%7Cs4WPpCdN2-dt_mtid_20925top39173_pcrid_307882469720&cid=wwa-us-kwgo-mac-slid-- https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/?afid=p238%7Cs4WPpCdN2-dt_... https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-comparison-chart/?compare=all-intel-macs&highlight=0&prod1=MacBookAir031&prod2=MacBookAir035&prod3=MacBookPro098 https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-comparison-chart/?compare=...
- saagarjha 8y ago
  Every Mac has a headphone port.
  - rz2k 8y ago
    The press around Apple products has been concerned about them disappearing with the push for AirPods. Some articles chose to make the distinction that it wouldn't happen unless they added a Lightning port to the MacBooks, but the latest iPad Pro went from both a Lightning port and a headphone jack to neither one.