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When will people finally realize that Apple hardware is a status symbol, and not indicative of quality any more? How many more disasters, mishaps, and otherwis

When will people finally realize that Apple hardware is a status symbol, and not indicative of quality any more? How many more disasters, mishaps, and otherwise shoddy QA do they have to have before people start demanding something else? Edit: "Nice". Disagree and suffer the wrath of -1's and ratelimiting.

symfoniq 8y ago
I think many people do realize this, but need macOS for various reasons.
dmtroyer 8y ago
Well, my anecdotal experience includes five different MBPs over the last nine years and I haven't had trouble with any of them. I'll continue to buy MBPs and ask for them at work.
chrisseaton 8y ago
> When will people finally realize that Apple hardware is a status symbol, and not indicative of quality any more? In my practical experience it is higher quality than other hardware.
- crankylinuxuser 8y ago
  I'm sure in a superficial, artistic way, it appears higher quality. But the moment you dig further than skin deep, there's glaring flaws after glaring flaws. The machine is nigh unupgradable, being soldered and glued at the seams. If the mainboard is fried (usb3 cables?), the SSD is not recoverable. There's also other various "failures if you look inside" like this issue. One only needs to do a cursory search. One recent major issue is that a speck of dust destroys keys on their keyboards. Another issue pertaining to the laptop is that they are forcing with each update the APP-ification with continual hurdles to make it harder to install nonstore software. Now sure, if you want to build for iOS, you need something running OSX. And the only corporate solution is an apple. I get that dependency well, stinks. But I don't make bones that their superficial beauty is only skin deep.
  - Retra 8y ago
    If you want to argue that there's no correlation between the Apple name and the quality of their products, you're going to need to do a comparative analysis between Apple and other manufacturers instead of simply cherry-picking well-known Apple product failures.
    - chrisseaton 8y ago
      The issue about the keyboard is notable because it's so unusual for Apple to make a design mistake. The keyboard on my Dell laptop is garbage but that's the way they always are so nobody bats an eyelid about it.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  It certainly has been in the past. I'm not sure it's true with the last few years' worth of MacBooks.
wil421 8y ago
Apple has great hardware and they are known for it. It one of the reason why HN likes their stuff. We demand a quality product not a status symbol. Do you think we would be discussing this article if it was Dell, HP, or Lenovo? I doubt the larger tech blogs would’ve even picked it up or even cared.

symfoniq 8y ago

I think many people do realize this, but need macOS for various reasons.

dmtroyer 8y ago

Well, my anecdotal experience includes five different MBPs over the last nine years and I haven't had trouble with any of them. I'll continue to buy MBPs and ask for them at work.

chrisseaton 8y ago

> When will people finally realize that Apple hardware is a status symbol, and not indicative of quality any more? In my practical experience it is higher quality than other hardware.

crankylinuxuser 8y ago
I'm sure in a superficial, artistic way, it appears higher quality. But the moment you dig further than skin deep, there's glaring flaws after glaring flaws. The machine is nigh unupgradable, being soldered and glued at the seams. If the mainboard is fried (usb3 cables?), the SSD is not recoverable. There's also other various "failures if you look inside" like this issue. One only needs to do a cursory search. One recent major issue is that a speck of dust destroys keys on their keyboards. Another issue pertaining to the laptop is that they are forcing with each update the APP-ification with continual hurdles to make it harder to install nonstore software. Now sure, if you want to build for iOS, you need something running OSX. And the only corporate solution is an apple. I get that dependency well, stinks. But I don't make bones that their superficial beauty is only skin deep.
- Retra 8y ago
  If you want to argue that there's no correlation between the Apple name and the quality of their products, you're going to need to do a comparative analysis between Apple and other manufacturers instead of simply cherry-picking well-known Apple product failures.
  - chrisseaton 8y ago
    The issue about the keyboard is notable because it's so unusual for Apple to make a design mistake. The keyboard on my Dell laptop is garbage but that's the way they always are so nobody bats an eyelid about it.
PhasmaFelis 8y ago
It certainly has been in the past. I'm not sure it's true with the last few years' worth of MacBooks.

wil421 8y ago

Apple has great hardware and they are known for it. It one of the reason why HN likes their stuff. We demand a quality product not a status symbol. Do you think we would be discussing this article if it was Dell, HP, or Lenovo? I doubt the larger tech blogs would’ve even picked it up or even cared.