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Hopefully more regulations will come forcing the manufacturers to think about reparability. Not sure where the EU right to repair ended up, but it seems more to

Hopefully more regulations will come forcing the manufacturers to think about reparability. Not sure where the EU right to repair ended up, but it seems more to be optional and just give better labelling.

ucaetano 8y ago
How much more would you be willing to pay for reparability? 20%? 40%? And how much more weight/volume would you be willing to accept for reparability? PS: Honest, curious question here, not rhetorical.
- fgandiya 8y ago
  Honestly, I won't mind that extra 40% if it meant that I could use the device for a few more years. Weight for me is a hard compromise, but the pre-touchbar Macs weren't necessarily heavy.
  - ucaetano 8y ago
    Cool, thanks for the honest answer!
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Look at how much people are paying for equivalent specification ThinkPads and you'll have your answer.
  - ucaetano 8y ago
    Those are hardly directly comparable products (as in a commodity product), as a product includes branding, OS, support, etc. You can't just look at hardware specs and think that two consumers would find the products directly comparable. Sure, you could design a multivariate survey to figure out the willingness to pay and so on, but that's pretty complex, so that's why I'm just asking here for personal opinions. PS: I'm not claiming that the products are not in the same level, or one is better than the other, just that such a comparison is made on a personal consumer basis and is largely subjective.
- sdflhasjd 8y ago
  If people won't pay for a hidden reliability surcharge then Apple will have to reconsider how they engineer their laptops.
- Polyisoprene 8y ago
  I still use my 2012 MacBook Pro 15”. I upgraded it yesterday with a new 2 TB SSD drive to replace the 1 TB SSD I bought 4-5 years ago. It’s still surprisingly fast and the only thing that feels really old is the screen. Modern retina screens are way better. Unfortunately the battery life is degrading and the power cable have started to crack. Pretty sure my next laptop won’t be from Apple unless the prices for upgrades come way down, or drives/memory can be replaced. Paying 3-4000 euro for a new laptop with limited lifetime is not an option.

ucaetano 8y ago

How much more would you be willing to pay for reparability? 20%? 40%? And how much more weight/volume would you be willing to accept for reparability? PS: Honest, curious question here, not rhetorical.

fgandiya 8y ago
Honestly, I won't mind that extra 40% if it meant that I could use the device for a few more years. Weight for me is a hard compromise, but the pre-touchbar Macs weren't necessarily heavy.
- ucaetano 8y ago
  Cool, thanks for the honest answer!
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Look at how much people are paying for equivalent specification ThinkPads and you'll have your answer.
- ucaetano 8y ago
  Those are hardly directly comparable products (as in a commodity product), as a product includes branding, OS, support, etc. You can't just look at hardware specs and think that two consumers would find the products directly comparable. Sure, you could design a multivariate survey to figure out the willingness to pay and so on, but that's pretty complex, so that's why I'm just asking here for personal opinions. PS: I'm not claiming that the products are not in the same level, or one is better than the other, just that such a comparison is made on a personal consumer basis and is largely subjective.
sdflhasjd 8y ago
If people won't pay for a hidden reliability surcharge then Apple will have to reconsider how they engineer their laptops.
Polyisoprene 8y ago
I still use my 2012 MacBook Pro 15”. I upgraded it yesterday with a new 2 TB SSD drive to replace the 1 TB SSD I bought 4-5 years ago. It’s still surprisingly fast and the only thing that feels really old is the screen. Modern retina screens are way better. Unfortunately the battery life is degrading and the power cable have started to crack. Pretty sure my next laptop won’t be from Apple unless the prices for upgrades come way down, or drives/memory can be replaced. Paying 3-4000 euro for a new laptop with limited lifetime is not an option.