>or maybe your distinction is that it is always progressing and that isn't necessarily a value judgement on whether the 'progress' is good or bad, just that the

>or maybe your distinction is that it is always progressing and that isn't necessarily a value judgement on whether the 'progress' is good or bad, just that the situation is always becoming different That would be part of it, not all progress is what we think of as good but it's progress, evolution of the status quo. The ratchet analogy also fits IMO.