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Don't worry, guys, there are infinite parallel universes in which each and every one of those possibilities (and many others) all happened. Take comfort in that

Don't worry, guys, there are infinite parallel universes in which each and every one of those possibilities (and many others) all happened. Take comfort in that. Or don't, it doesn't matter. Another you in another universe will in your place.

b_tterc_p 8y ago
Common misconception. Infinite worlds doesn’t mean all possibilities. There’s infinite numbers less than 2, and none of them are 3. Fully possible to suck in every possible version of yourself. Or whatever the context of the question happens to be.
- paradoxparalax 8y ago
  Good catch. I have never thought of this. Thanks. the "common misconception" you mention is common probably because it is normally one's first intuition. So, if I understand well, (sorry to say that but the number 3 analogy didn't help), the probability of something not happening with infinite chances or opportunities to happen can be small, but the chance of it never happening exists (so if we flip a coin infinite times, we may get infinite Heads and never get a single Tail(?)) Now that you said that in your comment, it feels intuitive. And this shows that there is a common misconception about the theorem of the infinite monkey[1]. And changes some intuitions about the chances of intelligent life existing out of Earth... 1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
  - bambax 8y ago
    If you flip a coin an infinite number of times, you will get a certain number of heads and a certain number of tails (0 for either, being a possibility), but you will never get something that is neither head nor tails. "Infinite" doesn't mean other constraints cease to exist.
    - paradoxparalax 8y ago
      Yes , sure, thanks for adding this point too. It will be infinite only inside the limitations that were set when formulating the problem. It can not extrapolate out of the limitations only because something inside it is infinite. But this I knew before, it is pretty obvious, off course, at least for me, and what you say explain the number 3 analogy in the parent comment I was replying to, I see now, and the reason I found the analogy weak is that this was already obvious. And thanks for confirming that "...(0 for either, being a possibility).." That was the important bit for me. Also, the chances of getting a Head in 10 flips is bigger then the chances of getting a Head with only 2 flips. So if we got 10 Heads already, every time we get another Head, it may decrease in some way the chance of getting another Head next flip, But the Curve of Decrease in the chances of getting a head again will approaching zero forever... ...(no, this may be wrong, theoretically, every time you flip the coin the chance is always 50%) , but the overall(infinite) curve's line will never touch the zero line. this probably wrong somewhere, that is why people go broke trying to do the "double the bet" by playing always on the black or always on the red on the roulette at the casino, always doubling the bet when they loose some shot. This is paradoxal and confusing for me and is the reason I stopped jumping from 15, 20 meter high rocks into the sea. I thought the chances of something going wrong (solely because of the Law of Probabilities, not counting ageing and other factors) will Increase overall, and someday I was going to get hurt.
      - adrianN 8y ago
        Every sequence of coin flips has the same probability. The coin doesn't know that you have seen ten heads already.
        paradoxparalax 8y ago
        Yes, thats what I thought...but also the chances of getting a head in 10 shots is bigger then getting a head in 2 shots, otherwise playing only once in your life at lottery would be the same as playing everyday, but the financial cost is measured by unit, I mean, the price is by single ticket. Or I am wrong here all again and this is where I was wrong? Sorry you maybe you made your comment before some edit I made, But I am grateful you have pointed out this, Thank You.
  - mikorym 8y ago
    Normally, one also thinks that Achilles will reach the tortoise. Number 3 is the world in which said chosen author does not die. The set of (both positive or all) real numbers less than 2 or the set of rational numbers less than 2 would be the set of uncountable and countable worlds that exist, respectively. These are two examples of overarching multiverses in which one has infinite possible worlds, but said chosen author always dies anyway.
    - paradoxparalax 8y ago
      I had never thought He would reach the Tortoise, even when I was a kid and heard this Zenon's Paradox for the first time. But that is interesting and funny and you made me smile.
  - nyc111 8y ago
    > (so if we flip a coin infinite times, we may get infinite Heads and never get a single Tail(?)) But flipping a coin follows strict rules. A robot who is programmed to flip with same variables will always make the coin land on the same side.
    - paradoxparalax 8y ago
      Eureka!!! Thank You nyc111, you are the Genius One! what you said is obviously true, but in our Mental Experiment we assume priorly that we are talking about a imagined perfectly Random 50/50 % chances of Heads or Tails. Reality is more complex then mental experiments, of course... ...So your point is very good!!! Reality is the point...Yes...So the life existing in other planets is still good, no mind the misconceived infinite monkey theorem being wrong or right. And okonomiyaki3000 may have made a good point too, so we don't worry and ... </ Warning: some humor coming in the next words, if you don't like humor you can just stop reading this comment here... </begin humor > ...envy our parallel life where I am the Emperor of the far-eastern Asian Empire and have more then 1 wife. </end of humour>
- pathseeker 8y ago
  > Fully possible to suck in every possible version of yourself. Now that's uplifting. :)
- dstrohmaier 8y ago
  But if you are a modal realist, then you get that comfort. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism
  - paradoxparalax 8y ago
    Wow, now That is some complex sounding stuff!!! Wikipedia say's it's from a Man called David Kellogg Lewis (September 28, 1941 – October 14, 2001); an American philosopher, so...From Plato and Socrates until you get to 2001 there is a lot of stuff to learn, indeed... <Warning, humor ahead, your are free to skip it>... </humor> I will let to master it after lunch, before back to the office </humor>
whatshisface 8y ago
>there are infinite parallel universes Let me know when you've observed one.
- paradoxparalax 8y ago
  Please note that I'm priorly assuming in this thought experiment that the space in the universe is infinite: ( no matter the time being limited to only 1.0 second in the experiment, or time being infinite , for this point below , doesn't matter, even 1 infinitesimal of a fraction of a millisecond would be enough, of course we need at least a little bit of time, because with No time at all there is no space to speak of, much less infinite space ) All the infinite universes that exist and we are inside all of them right now( it is only 1 universe, but all "universes" exist in this infinite universe, side by side, They don't need to be "parallel", they can be side-by-side, it means, they don't occupy the same space, but we don't need it, because we have Infinite space(more then enough) So we have a lot of space, and in a given second, in all this space, every possible thing is happening right now, but very far from us, light-years is too small to measure the distances we are talking about , actually is impossible to measure how big even with units bigger then Light-Years... ...(1 Light-Year is the distance you go in 1 year at light speed, of course this is redundant info, but some readers may not know it).... And is impossible to measure because with any unit of distance because the distance here is Infinite,... So everything that you can and Can Not... (infinite times more things then you can ever imagine if you had a infinite life)... ...Is happening at this very millisecond... ...Or a in fraction of a millisecond... A infinisecond would be enough to all infinite possible things to exist, distributed by our infinite space... Of course this only, and Solely only If the Space of the Universe is really infinite.... I think it is, but even Einstein was not so sure, so... But I am sure Time is infinite, so 1 square meter of space is enough for every possible imaginable and unimaginable thing to exist ( well all every possible things smaller then 1 square meter) If the time is infinite, It means "for Eternity" or On Eternity, everything will happen) you only need a square nanomilimeter for that (but all infinite things inside the given space of the nanomilimeter)... Please Remember that you can shove/fit/stuff or insert more then 10 infinite universes inside 1 single infinite universe, because infinite is infinite. Now replace the number 10 above by infinite. you can fit an infinite number of Infinite universes inside a single 1 infinite universe, as the simple Math proves. So okonimiaki3000 is right when he says what he says. And your comment was Snarky and Clue-less, sorry to say that. If you don't have arguments to support your claims, better avoiding doing exactly the Opposite ( here is Exactly the Inverse) The Opposite of what you were trying to do with your pointless comment, trying to sound Smart and sounding exactly the opposite... Sorry. But you deserve it for your Snark. All of this is because when you Multiply anything, even very small, by infinite, the result equals infinite.

b_tterc_p 8y ago

Common misconception. Infinite worlds doesn’t mean all possibilities. There’s infinite numbers less than 2, and none of them are 3. Fully possible to suck in every possible version of yourself. Or whatever the context of the question happens to be.

paradoxparalax 8y ago
Good catch. I have never thought of this. Thanks. the "common misconception" you mention is common probably because it is normally one's first intuition. So, if I understand well, (sorry to say that but the number 3 analogy didn't help), the probability of something not happening with infinite chances or opportunities to happen can be small, but the chance of it never happening exists (so if we flip a coin infinite times, we may get infinite Heads and never get a single Tail(?)) Now that you said that in your comment, it feels intuitive. And this shows that there is a common misconception about the theorem of the infinite monkey[1]. And changes some intuitions about the chances of intelligent life existing out of Earth... 1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
- bambax 8y ago
  If you flip a coin an infinite number of times, you will get a certain number of heads and a certain number of tails (0 for either, being a possibility), but you will never get something that is neither head nor tails. "Infinite" doesn't mean other constraints cease to exist.
  - paradoxparalax 8y ago
    Yes , sure, thanks for adding this point too. It will be infinite only inside the limitations that were set when formulating the problem. It can not extrapolate out of the limitations only because something inside it is infinite. But this I knew before, it is pretty obvious, off course, at least for me, and what you say explain the number 3 analogy in the parent comment I was replying to, I see now, and the reason I found the analogy weak is that this was already obvious. And thanks for confirming that "...(0 for either, being a possibility).." That was the important bit for me. Also, the chances of getting a Head in 10 flips is bigger then the chances of getting a Head with only 2 flips. So if we got 10 Heads already, every time we get another Head, it may decrease in some way the chance of getting another Head next flip, But the Curve of Decrease in the chances of getting a head again will approaching zero forever... ...(no, this may be wrong, theoretically, every time you flip the coin the chance is always 50%) , but the overall(infinite) curve's line will never touch the zero line. this probably wrong somewhere, that is why people go broke trying to do the "double the bet" by playing always on the black or always on the red on the roulette at the casino, always doubling the bet when they loose some shot. This is paradoxal and confusing for me and is the reason I stopped jumping from 15, 20 meter high rocks into the sea. I thought the chances of something going wrong (solely because of the Law of Probabilities, not counting ageing and other factors) will Increase overall, and someday I was going to get hurt.
    - adrianN 8y ago
      Every sequence of coin flips has the same probability. The coin doesn't know that you have seen ten heads already.
      - paradoxparalax 8y ago
        Yes, thats what I thought...but also the chances of getting a head in 10 shots is bigger then getting a head in 2 shots, otherwise playing only once in your life at lottery would be the same as playing everyday, but the financial cost is measured by unit, I mean, the price is by single ticket. Or I am wrong here all again and this is where I was wrong? Sorry you maybe you made your comment before some edit I made, But I am grateful you have pointed out this, Thank You.
- mikorym 8y ago
  Normally, one also thinks that Achilles will reach the tortoise. Number 3 is the world in which said chosen author does not die. The set of (both positive or all) real numbers less than 2 or the set of rational numbers less than 2 would be the set of uncountable and countable worlds that exist, respectively. These are two examples of overarching multiverses in which one has infinite possible worlds, but said chosen author always dies anyway.
  - paradoxparalax 8y ago
    I had never thought He would reach the Tortoise, even when I was a kid and heard this Zenon's Paradox for the first time. But that is interesting and funny and you made me smile.
- nyc111 8y ago
  > (so if we flip a coin infinite times, we may get infinite Heads and never get a single Tail(?)) But flipping a coin follows strict rules. A robot who is programmed to flip with same variables will always make the coin land on the same side.
  - paradoxparalax 8y ago
    Eureka!!! Thank You nyc111, you are the Genius One! what you said is obviously true, but in our Mental Experiment we assume priorly that we are talking about a imagined perfectly Random 50/50 % chances of Heads or Tails. Reality is more complex then mental experiments, of course... ...So your point is very good!!! Reality is the point...Yes...So the life existing in other planets is still good, no mind the misconceived infinite monkey theorem being wrong or right. And okonomiyaki3000 may have made a good point too, so we don't worry and ... </ Warning: some humor coming in the next words, if you don't like humor you can just stop reading this comment here... </begin humor > ...envy our parallel life where I am the Emperor of the far-eastern Asian Empire and have more then 1 wife. </end of humour>
pathseeker 8y ago
> Fully possible to suck in every possible version of yourself. Now that's uplifting. :)
dstrohmaier 8y ago
But if you are a modal realist, then you get that comfort. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism
- paradoxparalax 8y ago
  Wow, now That is some complex sounding stuff!!! Wikipedia say's it's from a Man called David Kellogg Lewis (September 28, 1941 – October 14, 2001); an American philosopher, so...From Plato and Socrates until you get to 2001 there is a lot of stuff to learn, indeed... <Warning, humor ahead, your are free to skip it>... </humor> I will let to master it after lunch, before back to the office </humor>

whatshisface 8y ago

>there are infinite parallel universes Let me know when you've observed one.

paradoxparalax 8y ago
Please note that I'm priorly assuming in this thought experiment that the space in the universe is infinite: ( no matter the time being limited to only 1.0 second in the experiment, or time being infinite , for this point below , doesn't matter, even 1 infinitesimal of a fraction of a millisecond would be enough, of course we need at least a little bit of time, because with No time at all there is no space to speak of, much less infinite space ) All the infinite universes that exist and we are inside all of them right now( it is only 1 universe, but all "universes" exist in this infinite universe, side by side, They don't need to be "parallel", they can be side-by-side, it means, they don't occupy the same space, but we don't need it, because we have Infinite space(more then enough) So we have a lot of space, and in a given second, in all this space, every possible thing is happening right now, but very far from us, light-years is too small to measure the distances we are talking about , actually is impossible to measure how big even with units bigger then Light-Years... ...(1 Light-Year is the distance you go in 1 year at light speed, of course this is redundant info, but some readers may not know it).... And is impossible to measure because with any unit of distance because the distance here is Infinite,... So everything that you can and Can Not... (infinite times more things then you can ever imagine if you had a infinite life)... ...Is happening at this very millisecond... ...Or a in fraction of a millisecond... A infinisecond would be enough to all infinite possible things to exist, distributed by our infinite space... Of course this only, and Solely only If the Space of the Universe is really infinite.... I think it is, but even Einstein was not so sure, so... But I am sure Time is infinite, so 1 square meter of space is enough for every possible imaginable and unimaginable thing to exist ( well all every possible things smaller then 1 square meter) If the time is infinite, It means "for Eternity" or On Eternity, everything will happen) you only need a square nanomilimeter for that (but all infinite things inside the given space of the nanomilimeter)... Please Remember that you can shove/fit/stuff or insert more then 10 infinite universes inside 1 single infinite universe, because infinite is infinite. Now replace the number 10 above by infinite. you can fit an infinite number of Infinite universes inside a single 1 infinite universe, as the simple Math proves. So okonimiaki3000 is right when he says what he says. And your comment was Snarky and Clue-less, sorry to say that. If you don't have arguments to support your claims, better avoiding doing exactly the Opposite ( here is Exactly the Inverse) The Opposite of what you were trying to do with your pointless comment, trying to sound Smart and sounding exactly the opposite... Sorry. But you deserve it for your Snark. All of this is because when you Multiply anything, even very small, by infinite, the result equals infinite.