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Can we take a step back and talk about the management, scheduling, and boundary issues that are resulting in your needing to order dinner at your workplace, see

Can we take a step back and talk about the management, scheduling, and boundary issues that are resulting in your needing to order dinner at your workplace, seemingly every single night? Sounds like something must have gone seriously off the rails over there.

kkarakk 8y ago
how else are you going to feed a group of people in a big city? e,having people make their own food is irritating(and can't be included in "perks"), having a staff kitchen/canteen is a cost center. how would you do it better?
- ghaff 8y ago
  Did you miss the part about dinner? Or are you so deep in a [EDIT: ummm. suboptimal (that better?)] bubble that ordering dinner at work on a frequent ongoing basis seems normal?
- Angostura 8y ago
  > how would you do it better? I was lucky enough to have bosses who would come around at 5:30 and say 'Oi, what are you still doing here, go home'
  - swish_bob 8y ago
    Quite. We sat down as a team and spoke about sustainability to the one guy who was working late regularly. And pointed out when he wasn't quite grasping it that we weren't going to allow code he had written on his own into the codebase. You might think it's a sprint. You're wrong.
- skinnymuch 8y ago
  Pretty sure it is about not working at dinner time for what seems to be most nights based on OPs writing. So I think everyone would do better by not having that many work hours.
alangpierce 8y ago
That doesn't really resonate with me, might just be a cultural disconnect. I've worked at 5 Bay Area tech jobs, and in all of them, it has been fairly common that some people choose to stay for dinner. Sometimes it's people who start the day later, sometimes it's people who are working a bit extra. I'm having a hard time remembering a time where I felt pressured to stay for dinner, it's just a schedule that some people have. Two places I've worked (including my current place) have offered free dinner for anyone around at dinnertime.
- dagw 8y ago
  I'm having a hard time remembering a time where I felt pressured to stay for dinner If back before I was married I'd worked at a place that offered free dinner and snacks I'm convinced I would have happily and voluntarily stayed at the office until late basically every night. So as such I'm really glad I never did.
Lazare 8y ago
I know right? And as a write this, the only other reply to you is basically a confused "but how else would you do it", since apparently the concept of putting in your 8 hours and going home to eat dinner with your family just doesn't compute.
- 1-6 8y ago
  As some cities have started banning employee cafeterias in new buildings (to encourage workers to eat in the vicinity), there could be a return to catering and meal delivery services. I think Munchery was a little too much too early. They needed to establish a following before digging deep into VC funds.
gamblor956 8y ago
For accountants, this describes their life during the tax busy season (Feb-Apr, and/or July-Sep, depending on their firm's client base). 12 hour days are expected at most firms. New hires can look forward to 14 hour days. Compliance sweatshops will expect 16 hour days, though are usually very generous with salary to compensate.

kkarakk 8y ago

how else are you going to feed a group of people in a big city? e,having people make their own food is irritating(and can't be included in "perks"), having a staff kitchen/canteen is a cost center. how would you do it better?

ghaff 8y ago
Did you miss the part about dinner? Or are you so deep in a [EDIT: ummm. suboptimal (that better?)] bubble that ordering dinner at work on a frequent ongoing basis seems normal?
Angostura 8y ago
> how would you do it better? I was lucky enough to have bosses who would come around at 5:30 and say 'Oi, what are you still doing here, go home'
- swish_bob 8y ago
  Quite. We sat down as a team and spoke about sustainability to the one guy who was working late regularly. And pointed out when he wasn't quite grasping it that we weren't going to allow code he had written on his own into the codebase. You might think it's a sprint. You're wrong.
skinnymuch 8y ago
Pretty sure it is about not working at dinner time for what seems to be most nights based on OPs writing. So I think everyone would do better by not having that many work hours.

alangpierce 8y ago

That doesn't really resonate with me, might just be a cultural disconnect. I've worked at 5 Bay Area tech jobs, and in all of them, it has been fairly common that some people choose to stay for dinner. Sometimes it's people who start the day later, sometimes it's people who are working a bit extra. I'm having a hard time remembering a time where I felt pressured to stay for dinner, it's just a schedule that some people have. Two places I've worked (including my current place) have offered free dinner for anyone around at dinnertime.

dagw 8y ago
I'm having a hard time remembering a time where I felt pressured to stay for dinner If back before I was married I'd worked at a place that offered free dinner and snacks I'm convinced I would have happily and voluntarily stayed at the office until late basically every night. So as such I'm really glad I never did.

Lazare 8y ago

I know right? And as a write this, the only other reply to you is basically a confused "but how else would you do it", since apparently the concept of putting in your 8 hours and going home to eat dinner with your family just doesn't compute.

1-6 8y ago
As some cities have started banning employee cafeterias in new buildings (to encourage workers to eat in the vicinity), there could be a return to catering and meal delivery services. I think Munchery was a little too much too early. They needed to establish a following before digging deep into VC funds.

gamblor956 8y ago

For accountants, this describes their life during the tax busy season (Feb-Apr, and/or July-Sep, depending on their firm's client base). 12 hour days are expected at most firms. New hires can look forward to 14 hour days. Compliance sweatshops will expect 16 hour days, though are usually very generous with salary to compensate.