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But don't you get extremely high rates during the day (something like $0.48/kWh) for daytime use in the summer with that plan?

by Fins 8y ago

jstarfish 8y ago
Yes, but only during peak hours, 4-9pm.
- Fins 8y ago
  Indeed, but isn't that when you might want to actually use it, which is why it is peak?
  - tehlike 8y ago
    On an aggregate basis, maybe, but on an individual kevel, not necessarily. A house might have things that uses more power but doesnt have to be running at peak hours. Examples i can think of are pool pumps and ev charging. Pool pumps need to stay on for 3-5 hours but doesnt matter really when exactly. Same for ev chargers. These "devices" use more in the day than everything else combined.
  - Reason077 8y ago
    The peak period is when the highest demand is placed on the grid. In CA, this is typically summer evenings. This sort of tariff would be ideal if you also have solar and/or a storage battery, as you can avoid paying the peak rate and take maximum advantage of the off-peak one.
mdeeks 8y ago
Yes, correct. If you have high energy usage during the day (like family at home all day) it may not be the best plan. Though I do seem to remember their other tiered plan had similar high rates once you break into the high usage tier for the month. PG&E has a calculator online that'll look at your usage and recommend the right plan automatically.
- Fins 8y ago
  Yeah, I checked them when I lived in PGE territory. Savings on EV are not quite as trivial to realize in real life as they are on a marketing site.
ghouse 8y ago
Yes, from 2-9 PM on weekdays during "Summer" May through October, the rate is $0.47151 for PG&E (on the EV tariff). Shifting behavior to only charge EV, run dryer, dishwasher outside of those hours is fairly easy. Due primarily to surplus solar power, later this year, the "peak" period changes to 4-9 PM and "Summer" changes to July-Oct.

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But don't you get extremely high rates during the day (something like $0.48/kWh) for daytime use in the summer with that plan?

by Fins 8y ago

But don't you get extremely high rates during the day (something like $0.48/kWh) for daytime use in the summer with that plan?

jstarfish 8y ago
Yes, but only during peak hours, 4-9pm.
- Fins 8y ago
  Indeed, but isn't that when you might want to actually use it, which is why it is peak?
  - tehlike 8y ago
    On an aggregate basis, maybe, but on an individual kevel, not necessarily. A house might have things that uses more power but doesnt have to be running at peak hours. Examples i can think of are pool pumps and ev charging. Pool pumps need to stay on for 3-5 hours but doesnt matter really when exactly. Same for ev chargers. These "devices" use more in the day than everything else combined.
  - Reason077 8y ago
    The peak period is when the highest demand is placed on the grid. In CA, this is typically summer evenings. This sort of tariff would be ideal if you also have solar and/or a storage battery, as you can avoid paying the peak rate and take maximum advantage of the off-peak one.
mdeeks 8y ago
Yes, correct. If you have high energy usage during the day (like family at home all day) it may not be the best plan. Though I do seem to remember their other tiered plan had similar high rates once you break into the high usage tier for the month. PG&E has a calculator online that'll look at your usage and recommend the right plan automatically.
- Fins 8y ago
  Yeah, I checked them when I lived in PGE territory. Savings on EV are not quite as trivial to realize in real life as they are on a marketing site.
ghouse 8y ago
Yes, from 2-9 PM on weekdays during "Summer" May through October, the rate is $0.47151 for PG&E (on the EV tariff). Shifting behavior to only charge EV, run dryer, dishwasher outside of those hours is fairly easy. Due primarily to surplus solar power, later this year, the "peak" period changes to 4-9 PM and "Summer" changes to July-Oct.