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> None of these things are true. With a good diet and exercise, you will feel better and be happier, with way more energy. That makes your life better, not wors

> None of these things are true. With a good diet and exercise, you will feel better and be happier, with way more energy. That makes your life better, not worse. I never said your life won’t be better overall. I said it will be worse in real ways. Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome. There is a reason these foods are popular. No amount of pretending is going to make that not true, and a life where you could eat them with no downsides would be better.

holri 8y ago
> Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome It depends what you are used to eat. A few years ago I would have agreed that pizza and Soda is great. But today after changing my live style I cook for myself fresh vegetables from CSA and small bio farms I do not like pizza and all the crap any more. That goes so far that I can not go to restaurants anymore, because 95% of them serve crap for my todays taste.
- pluma 8y ago
  > That goes so far that I can not go to restaurants anymore I would call that a direct impact to quality of life (if only because you're missing out on the social experience), which is the exact point the GP made.
  - holri 8y ago
    There are some restaurants with high quality food. And I enjoy them. After all my quality of live is way better than before. My social experience improved because I met interesting people with the same interest / taste at my local Foodcoop for example.
- KozmoNau7 8y ago
  Pizza is only crap, if you eat crap pizza. Making good pizza at home, with high quality ingredients is maybe not 100% perfect nutrition, but it is damn good, and much better than anything you'd buy from a pizzeria or (heavens forbid) frozen pizza. Soda is junk, though. Only fit for extremely occasional use as a mixer in a good drink.
kstenerud 8y ago
I moved off those a few years ago. It was painful for a year and a half. Now I can't even eat them anymore; they taste vile. It was the salt and sugar that made them addictive, but now that I'm off them, I can finally taste the rest of the ingredients that went into them, and they taste terrible.
coldtea 8y ago
>Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome In a teenage-like definition of awesome.

holri 8y ago

> Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome It depends what you are used to eat. A few years ago I would have agreed that pizza and Soda is great. But today after changing my live style I cook for myself fresh vegetables from CSA and small bio farms I do not like pizza and all the crap any more. That goes so far that I can not go to restaurants anymore, because 95% of them serve crap for my todays taste.

pluma 8y ago
> That goes so far that I can not go to restaurants anymore I would call that a direct impact to quality of life (if only because you're missing out on the social experience), which is the exact point the GP made.
- holri 8y ago
  There are some restaurants with high quality food. And I enjoy them. After all my quality of live is way better than before. My social experience improved because I met interesting people with the same interest / taste at my local Foodcoop for example.
KozmoNau7 8y ago
Pizza is only crap, if you eat crap pizza. Making good pizza at home, with high quality ingredients is maybe not 100% perfect nutrition, but it is damn good, and much better than anything you'd buy from a pizzeria or (heavens forbid) frozen pizza. Soda is junk, though. Only fit for extremely occasional use as a mixer in a good drink.

kstenerud 8y ago

I moved off those a few years ago. It was painful for a year and a half. Now I can't even eat them anymore; they taste vile. It was the salt and sugar that made them addictive, but now that I'm off them, I can finally taste the rest of the ingredients that went into them, and they taste terrible.

coldtea 8y ago

>Eating pizza, Soda and so on are awesome In a teenage-like definition of awesome.