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Calling scooters "trash" and then using that extreme hyperbole to stretch meaning to "littering" contributes nothing to a discussion. This is not reddit.

afandian 8y ago
I'm in Oxford, UK (not GP poster). We have half a dozen smartphone-operated bike schemes on the go. The bikes do literally litter the pavement sometimes. On occasion you have to climb over them (or carry them out of the way). They end up in the river and chucked into hedges. They end up mangled by the side of the road after people try to remove the locks. Some of them do objectively end up as 'trash'. Yes, the blame lies squarely at the door of inconsiderate cyclists. But I can't help but think that the vendors (and licensing authorities) should have seen this coming. Is it stealing to personally take that rusy Ofo bike from the side of the road and re-use the materials? I think the answer is yes. What would the local authority do if I took it to the recycling station. They probably wouldn't want to touch it. So it's up to to the vendor to clean up their refuse. I haven't seen scooters first hand, but if they're like the bikes, then I don't think that's a hyperbolic stretch to use the word 'littering'.
etxm 8y ago
Oh it’s HN... sorry should have started my comment with: “well, actually” Well, actually: > trash - noun: discarded matter Check. > litter - verb: make (a place) untidy with rubbish or a large number of objects left lying about. Literally the definition of litter.
- noidea_ 8y ago
  Ohhh, so close. Scooters are not "discarded matter", nor is it "rubbish". You really should look up the definitions of words before you use them. You should also read up on descriptive grammar. It's pretty obvious that Bird scooters don't meet those definitions as commonly used. So not only do you not understand the literal definitions, you also seemingly lack social awareness on how people communicate. Here's a tip: When you have to try and quote literal definitions to make a point, and then get it wrong, you're over simplifying and being dumb. Nuance isn't a vice. Embrace understanding on multiple levels. See the differences and let your mind explore them. Check.
  - etxm 8y ago
    Well actually, trash is a subjective word. So there’s that. Also, if you leave it somewhere, it’s discarded. I’m not using that word in the literary sense, so that should make you extra happy. It was OP that was pissing and moaning about hyperbole, so I was pointing out that it could also be a literal statement. You seem really bent out of shape about it. You should embrace trying not to be a dickhead.

afandian 8y ago

I'm in Oxford, UK (not GP poster). We have half a dozen smartphone-operated bike schemes on the go. The bikes do literally litter the pavement sometimes. On occasion you have to climb over them (or carry them out of the way). They end up in the river and chucked into hedges. They end up mangled by the side of the road after people try to remove the locks. Some of them do objectively end up as 'trash'. Yes, the blame lies squarely at the door of inconsiderate cyclists. But I can't help but think that the vendors (and licensing authorities) should have seen this coming. Is it stealing to personally take that rusy Ofo bike from the side of the road and re-use the materials? I think the answer is yes. What would the local authority do if I took it to the recycling station. They probably wouldn't want to touch it. So it's up to to the vendor to clean up their refuse. I haven't seen scooters first hand, but if they're like the bikes, then I don't think that's a hyperbolic stretch to use the word 'littering'.

etxm 8y ago

Oh it’s HN... sorry should have started my comment with: “well, actually” Well, actually: > trash - noun: discarded matter Check. > litter - verb: make (a place) untidy with rubbish or a large number of objects left lying about. Literally the definition of litter.

noidea_ 8y ago
Ohhh, so close. Scooters are not "discarded matter", nor is it "rubbish". You really should look up the definitions of words before you use them. You should also read up on descriptive grammar. It's pretty obvious that Bird scooters don't meet those definitions as commonly used. So not only do you not understand the literal definitions, you also seemingly lack social awareness on how people communicate. Here's a tip: When you have to try and quote literal definitions to make a point, and then get it wrong, you're over simplifying and being dumb. Nuance isn't a vice. Embrace understanding on multiple levels. See the differences and let your mind explore them. Check.
- etxm 8y ago
  Well actually, trash is a subjective word. So there’s that. Also, if you leave it somewhere, it’s discarded. I’m not using that word in the literary sense, so that should make you extra happy. It was OP that was pissing and moaning about hyperbole, so I was pointing out that it could also be a literal statement. You seem really bent out of shape about it. You should embrace trying not to be a dickhead.