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Is this really something different than / opposed to tolerance? Or just a stronger state, of tolerance plus integration? I would argue that tolerance is one nec
by xvedejas 8y ago
Is this really something different than / opposed to tolerance? Or just a stronger state, of tolerance plus integration? I would argue that tolerance is one necessary part of integration, not some exclusionary alternative.
- Mizza 8y agoI think tolerance _alone_ is a "failure" scenario, and should absolutely not be considered a goal. Tolerance is, quite literally, a ghetto. We allow bad things to continue in the name of tolerance every day. I might even go further to say that integration paradoxically _requires_ some degree of intolerance - the integrated whole should be intolerant of "negative" aspects of the unintegrated, even if they are things that would be seen as protection of "positive" tradition/cultural values by those in a strictly "tolerant" camp on either side.
- xvedejas 8y agoMaybe we just need a new word for the phenomenon which prevents tolerance from progressing towards integration?
- Mizza 8y agoThat's an excellent idea! "Integration-preventative tolerance" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue though.
- AstralStorm 8y agoIt's called ignorance. Ignoring the bad sides of any given thing. It implies being unreasonable - ignoring good reasons to not tolerate a given behavior. Of course then there's camel nose/slippery slope fallacy so liked by intolerant. It is best to ask for evidence.