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One problem I have with it, though, is that often all the most popular articles in their site, are the opinion pieces. I'm still a subscriber, but there's a st

by taude 8y ago

One problem I have with it, though, is that often all the most popular articles in their site, are the opinion pieces. I'm still a subscriber, but there's a strongly "promoted" bias, IMHO, and it requires reading news from several sources with an open mind to get the complete story. Also, NYT isn't immune to click-baity titles, where the meat of the story isn't necessary correlate with the title.

dylan604 8y ago
>and it requires reading news from several sources with an open mind to get the complete story. I don’t consider this a negative. I have always had a bit of that “rebellious” streak in me, so I’ve been told. I have always questioned everything. I would ask “Why?” like 2 year old. I wasn’t asking to second guess coworkers, but because I wanted to learn to fish rather than being handed a fish. The question everything mentality stuck, so I’m constantly reading multiple sources to confirm or contradict any one single source.
- barbecue_sauce 8y ago
  Most people do not have time to do this.
  - ant_li0n 8y ago
    This is true, but unfortunately the new reality. Imagine when "deep fakes" etc become much more mainstream. You can't rely on one single source of information. You're going to have to get used to checking the sources, and cross-checking with other reputable sources.
smacktoward 8y ago
> often all the most popular articles in their site, are the opinion pieces It turns out people like to read other people's opinions. Who'da thunk? > I'm still a subscriber, but there's a strongly "promoted" bias, IMHO If you want a balanced overall view of the day's news, the place to start is the front/home page, not the "Most Popular" list. Newspaper editors spend extraordinary amounts of time agonizing over exactly what stories should go there and how much prominence to give to each. "Most Popular" skips all that in favor of the "wisdom of the crowd," which it turns out is not all that wise. (If the nytimes.com home page still contains too much opinion for you, you can get a digital edition of each day's print paper's front page at this stable URL: https://www.nytimes.com/section/todayspaper https://www.nytimes.com/section/todayspaper)
- taude 8y ago
  I typically just read the article notifications when they come in, so I think I get a pretty big mix? And I like their evening in review, or morning review sections when I have time.
- cperciva 8y ago
  It turns out people like to read other people's opinions. Who'da thunk? Except that they don't like to read other people's opinions. They like to read their own opinions. The most popular opinion pieces are overwhelmingly those which play to the prejudices of the majority of readers, not those which challenge people by presenting unpopular opinions.

by taude 8y ago

dylan604 8y ago

>and it requires reading news from several sources with an open mind to get the complete story. I don’t consider this a negative. I have always had a bit of that “rebellious” streak in me, so I’ve been told. I have always questioned everything. I would ask “Why?” like 2 year old. I wasn’t asking to second guess coworkers, but because I wanted to learn to fish rather than being handed a fish. The question everything mentality stuck, so I’m constantly reading multiple sources to confirm or contradict any one single source.

barbecue_sauce 8y ago
Most people do not have time to do this.
- ant_li0n 8y ago
  This is true, but unfortunately the new reality. Imagine when "deep fakes" etc become much more mainstream. You can't rely on one single source of information. You're going to have to get used to checking the sources, and cross-checking with other reputable sources.

smacktoward 8y ago

> often all the most popular articles in their site, are the opinion pieces It turns out people like to read other people's opinions. Who'da thunk? > I'm still a subscriber, but there's a strongly "promoted" bias, IMHO If you want a balanced overall view of the day's news, the place to start is the front/home page, not the "Most Popular" list. Newspaper editors spend extraordinary amounts of time agonizing over exactly what stories should go there and how much prominence to give to each. "Most Popular" skips all that in favor of the "wisdom of the crowd," which it turns out is not all that wise. (If the nytimes.com home page still contains too much opinion for you, you can get a digital edition of each day's print paper's front page at this stable URL: https://www.nytimes.com/section/todayspaper https://www.nytimes.com/section/todayspaper)

taude 8y ago
I typically just read the article notifications when they come in, so I think I get a pretty big mix? And I like their evening in review, or morning review sections when I have time.
cperciva 8y ago
It turns out people like to read other people's opinions. Who'da thunk? Except that they don't like to read other people's opinions. They like to read their own opinions. The most popular opinion pieces are overwhelmingly those which play to the prejudices of the majority of readers, not those which challenge people by presenting unpopular opinions.