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The biggest problem is that people don’t see the problem, because they can’t see it in historical context.
by ako 8y ago
The biggest problem is that people don’t see the problem, because they can’t see it in historical context.
- SideburnsOfDoom 8y agoYep. This is known as "shifting baselines syndrome" https://oceana.org/blog/daniel-pauly-and-george-monbiot-conversation-about-shifting-baselines-syndrome https://oceana.org/blog/daniel-pauly-and-george-monbiot-conv...
- ThomPete 8y agoSee what problem? That's the question here. Climate change is not a problem, it is a phenomena which have consequences. Some of them we see today some are 100 years into the future. We don't know what the right solution for the consequences in the future is as we don't even know what the consequences are and we don't even know what the problems are going to be. We can speculate but we can be wrong and so its much better to solve the problems we have today in ways we know how to solve and then invest in R&D to develop better solutions than to chase a future that might or might not be here. Alternatively I fear the current scenario were people have panicked and spend more time arguing on the internet than actually doing anything constructive about the problems right in front of them.
- ako 8y agoThat’s my point exactly, people don’t see a problem as they can’t compare our current situation with what it was like in the past. We’ve completely and utterly destroyed nature, seas are empty, air was unbreathsble at some point, all oyster banks completely gone, most wildlife going extinct and people are asking “what problem”? Thank you for proving my point.
- ThomPete 8y agoI am assuming you consider yourself part of "people" which means that you are subject to the same problem unless you believe yourself to be enlightened. So the question still is what is the actual problem and how do you know it's correctly defined?
- ako 8y agoWow, this makes me really sad. If you are so unable to see the problem I have no hope we'll ever fix this problem. As I wrote in the top comment, I'm often surprised when reading articles which compare our current state with the past, the amount of life we've destroyed, the amount of pollution we're producing. So yes, subject to the same problem, but open to learning the facts... You sound like the person that gets invited to a party, brings 100s of uninvited friends, completely trashes the house, kills a lot of the other invitees, and then is surprised when somebody thinks it's a problem:" you still have something resembling a roof, you can still sort of live here, what is the problem?"
- ThomPete 8y agoSo in other words words you considder yourself enlightened and not part of the people. Well that explains a lot. I know the facts, thats why i am not concerned.