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I would personally hate to be in a union. I would much rather deal with the arbitrary authority of a self interested management, which is semi-meritocratic, th
by travisoneill1 8y ago
I would personally hate to be in a union. I would much rather deal with the arbitrary authority of a self interested management, which is semi-meritocratic, than the stagnant seniority based hierarchy of a union.
- hoaw 8y agoMy whole argument was essentially that you don’t have choice. So how does your wish matter? I would argue that it doesn’t since you couldn’t change it even if you wanted to. Or I guess you could say you’re in luck since you are getting exactly what you want. I mean, what is the odds of that?
- travisoneill1 8y agoMy wish alone doesn't matter, and why would it? I am not the only engineer. As a collective, software engineers absolutely do have a choice as you can see from the recent collective bargaining that caused Google to drop unpopular projects. Obviously that leverage extends into the realm of compensation too.
- HarryHirsch 8y agoYou wonder how long the software bubble will last.
- hoaw 8y agoSo your proposed solution is collective bargaining (which isn’t really arbitrary) as long as it isn’t actually legally protected which is what a union is? I guess that is choice, just seemingly not a very realistic one.