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There is no correlation between fats and CVD. That's a very old belief (70s) that is debunked. Read this please: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC57

There is no correlation between fats and CVD. That's a very old belief (70s) that is debunked. Read this please: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5793267/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5793267/ Downvoters: Please just read the paper.

DoreenMichele 8y ago
From your link: SFA is now believed to play a much smaller role in CHD than was previously believed while that of sugar, whole grains, and cereal fiber have moved in the opposite direction. Which is not the same thing as no correlation. I'm sure it's vastly more complicated than just fat content, but the stuff I've seen indicated that one study of a vegetarian diet as post cardiac therapy explicitly set a goal of keeping fat content down to 10%. Prior to being put on a vegetarian diet, the typical diet of participants was much, much fattier. Participants were just blown away at being able to eat all they wanted for the first time in their lives and lose weight without even trying. My personal experience: I dropped several dress sizes without intending to by completely ignoring both calories and fat percentage and focusing on consuming nutritionally dense foods to redress known nutrient deficiencies. So I have absolutely no doubt that it's vastly more complicated. But I tend to get a lot of flak for talking about what I think about diet, the gut biome, medical stuff, etc. So I really wasn't looking to get into that. I was only looking to add a little more information about such studies. The main takeaway as I understand it: they stopped being obese. There are people who eat meat who are not obese.
- gigaftp 8y ago
  > Participants were just blown away at being able to eat all they wanted for the first time in their lives and lose weight without even trying. Anecdotal, but this is me at the moment on keto. For the first time in my life (I have been obese since 5) I am not ravenously hungry all the time, to the point where I can just eat one meal a day without much struggle. I eat as much as I want now, the only difference is I don't want much at all. Oh, and I can't eat many carbs.
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    I can relate. As my nutritional status improved, I gradually ate less and less. I just stopped being hungry all the time.

DoreenMichele 8y ago

From your link: SFA is now believed to play a much smaller role in CHD than was previously believed while that of sugar, whole grains, and cereal fiber have moved in the opposite direction. Which is not the same thing as no correlation. I'm sure it's vastly more complicated than just fat content, but the stuff I've seen indicated that one study of a vegetarian diet as post cardiac therapy explicitly set a goal of keeping fat content down to 10%. Prior to being put on a vegetarian diet, the typical diet of participants was much, much fattier. Participants were just blown away at being able to eat all they wanted for the first time in their lives and lose weight without even trying. My personal experience: I dropped several dress sizes without intending to by completely ignoring both calories and fat percentage and focusing on consuming nutritionally dense foods to redress known nutrient deficiencies. So I have absolutely no doubt that it's vastly more complicated. But I tend to get a lot of flak for talking about what I think about diet, the gut biome, medical stuff, etc. So I really wasn't looking to get into that. I was only looking to add a little more information about such studies. The main takeaway as I understand it: they stopped being obese. There are people who eat meat who are not obese.

gigaftp 8y ago
> Participants were just blown away at being able to eat all they wanted for the first time in their lives and lose weight without even trying. Anecdotal, but this is me at the moment on keto. For the first time in my life (I have been obese since 5) I am not ravenously hungry all the time, to the point where I can just eat one meal a day without much struggle. I eat as much as I want now, the only difference is I don't want much at all. Oh, and I can't eat many carbs.
- DoreenMichele 8y ago
  I can relate. As my nutritional status improved, I gradually ate less and less. I just stopped being hungry all the time.