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> We are barely making ends meet. Wow. This is people working at high tech companies in bay area. Why are they being paid subsistence salaries. Too many peop

> We are barely making ends meet. Wow. This is people working at high tech companies in bay area. Why are they being paid subsistence salaries. Too many people flooding into bay area? Why are ppl accepting such low salaries. So strange to me as an outsider. Whats the end game, just tough it out for a few yrs and build your resume and then get out?

stuart78 8y ago
A big part of it is just how expensive it is to live here. She mentions 3k on rent, for example. Kids are expensive as well, so while salaries can often appear high, the costs often scale to match. As she also mentions, it sounds like a large part of his total compensation was tied up in bonuses, which can be great when they work out well, but are much more discretionary than salary, as the story indicates.
- dominotw 8y ago
  > As she also mentions, it sounds like a large part of his total compensation was tied up in bonuses, which can be great when they work out well, but are much more discretionary than salary, as the story indicates. Sounds like they took a gamble and didn't work out. also is this a scam? https://www.gofundme.com/help-kari-pollock039s-family https://www.gofundme.com/help-kari-pollock039s-family
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    I don't think it's fair to rationalize poor labor practices. If they had paid out this worker's remaining sign up bonus and his 2018 performance bonus, we would've likely never heard of this. I know I won't recommend Tesla vehicles to anyone anymore (this is the final publicized labor issue "straw" as a customer). And if Tesla is so cash strapped they couldn't pay that comp out for folks to move on mostly whole (60 days severance, remaining bonuses due, COBRA), management needs to be replaced with someone who can properly forecast cashflow, and more to the point, manage a business of this scale appropriately. EDIT: I have reported the GoFundMe campaign you mention to have the organizer verified.
    - dominotw 8y ago
      This is not the first time tesla has been accused of the poor labor practices( like you pointed out). They voluntarily made the deal with the devil, had no qualms about working for such a company. Why would a known shitty company treat this particular person any differently.
akras14 8y ago
I think most people don’t realize just how expensive it is to live here, until they get here.
almost_usual 8y ago
I feel like Tesla gets away with lower salaries because of “the mission to save the world”. With Tesla on the resume he should be able to find another job where he’ll probably make more than he was.
hoaw 8y ago
A lot of people are not having a good time in the US. Every once in a while that shines through. Like in this article where Ford (the company) is commenting on hiring: “The company said it takes about two weeks to collect enough résumés from state employment agencies, minority and veterans groups and employee referrals. Then each job candidate must pass a basic reading comprehension and problem-solving test. That preliminary screening takes at least a week, likely longer, Ford said. Those who pass the written test must then be cleared by a doctor for physical activity and pass a drug test. To get 400 drug-free employees, Ford said it probably has to test 600 or 700 job candidates, a process that takes another two weeks.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2018/05/01/no-way-to-run-a-factory-teslas-hiring-binge-is-a-sign-of-trouble-not-progress/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2018/05/01/no-way-t...
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stuart78 8y ago

A big part of it is just how expensive it is to live here. She mentions 3k on rent, for example. Kids are expensive as well, so while salaries can often appear high, the costs often scale to match. As she also mentions, it sounds like a large part of his total compensation was tied up in bonuses, which can be great when they work out well, but are much more discretionary than salary, as the story indicates.

dominotw 8y ago
> As she also mentions, it sounds like a large part of his total compensation was tied up in bonuses, which can be great when they work out well, but are much more discretionary than salary, as the story indicates. Sounds like they took a gamble and didn't work out. also is this a scam? https://www.gofundme.com/help-kari-pollock039s-family https://www.gofundme.com/help-kari-pollock039s-family
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  I don't think it's fair to rationalize poor labor practices. If they had paid out this worker's remaining sign up bonus and his 2018 performance bonus, we would've likely never heard of this. I know I won't recommend Tesla vehicles to anyone anymore (this is the final publicized labor issue "straw" as a customer). And if Tesla is so cash strapped they couldn't pay that comp out for folks to move on mostly whole (60 days severance, remaining bonuses due, COBRA), management needs to be replaced with someone who can properly forecast cashflow, and more to the point, manage a business of this scale appropriately. EDIT: I have reported the GoFundMe campaign you mention to have the organizer verified.
  - dominotw 8y ago
    This is not the first time tesla has been accused of the poor labor practices( like you pointed out). They voluntarily made the deal with the devil, had no qualms about working for such a company. Why would a known shitty company treat this particular person any differently.

akras14 8y ago

I think most people don’t realize just how expensive it is to live here, until they get here.

almost_usual 8y ago

I feel like Tesla gets away with lower salaries because of “the mission to save the world”. With Tesla on the resume he should be able to find another job where he’ll probably make more than he was.

hoaw 8y ago

A lot of people are not having a good time in the US. Every once in a while that shines through. Like in this article where Ford (the company) is commenting on hiring: “The company said it takes about two weeks to collect enough résumés from state employment agencies, minority and veterans groups and employee referrals. Then each job candidate must pass a basic reading comprehension and problem-solving test. That preliminary screening takes at least a week, likely longer, Ford said. Those who pass the written test must then be cleared by a doctor for physical activity and pass a drug test. To get 400 drug-free employees, Ford said it probably has to test 600 or 700 job candidates, a process that takes another two weeks.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2018/05/01/no-way-to-run-a-factory-teslas-hiring-binge-is-a-sign-of-trouble-not-progress/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2018/05/01/no-way-t...

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