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It's actually very simple. Cisco and Huawei are not on equal grounds. The first is a public company (as in publicly traded), HQed in the US, and subject to far

It's actually very simple. Cisco and Huawei are not on equal grounds. The first is a public company (as in publicly traded), HQed in the US, and subject to far more controls and oversight than Huawei, which is ultimately owned by the Chinese government. Given the US and UK are allies, and China is not, and I would even consider them enemies, given their online activities, I'd say it's pretty reasonable.

RidingPegasus 8y ago
Perhaps for the UK, but what about allies like France and Switzerland? It's a strange moral relativism blindly defending backdoored products [0] from the US/Five Eyes who have been caught committing corporate espionage against these allies [1] for decades. It sort of nullifies the entire argument of being in the "right". As far as IP theft goes, India has a bipartisan policy of willfully stealing and then exporting pharma IP, it's blatant and rampant.[2] Tens of billions stolen each year from the US alone and to add insult India pharma's biggest export market is the US. Yet you'll see none of the rhetoric that comes with China's rampant manufacturing IP theft. If people are happy to admit it's essentially now a team sport and everyone is playing the game that's fine, but claiming to have moral superiority on these matters is amusingly easy to debunk. [0] https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/internet-privacy/snowden--the-nsa-planted-backdoors-in-cisco-products.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/internet-privacy/s... [1] https://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-11/news/mn-55816_1_cia-officials https://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-11/news/mn-55816_1_cia-... [1] https://www.rt.com/news/269251-nsa-sarkozy-hollande-wikileaks/ https://www.rt.com/news/269251-nsa-sarkozy-hollande-wikileak... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2013/09/16/indias-war-on-intellectual-property-rights-may-bring-with-it-a-body-count/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2013/09/16/indias-wa...

RidingPegasus 8y ago

Perhaps for the UK, but what about allies like France and Switzerland? It's a strange moral relativism blindly defending backdoored products [0] from the US/Five Eyes who have been caught committing corporate espionage against these allies [1] for decades. It sort of nullifies the entire argument of being in the "right". As far as IP theft goes, India has a bipartisan policy of willfully stealing and then exporting pharma IP, it's blatant and rampant.[2] Tens of billions stolen each year from the US alone and to add insult India pharma's biggest export market is the US. Yet you'll see none of the rhetoric that comes with China's rampant manufacturing IP theft. If people are happy to admit it's essentially now a team sport and everyone is playing the game that's fine, but claiming to have moral superiority on these matters is amusingly easy to debunk. [0] https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/internet-privacy/snowden--the-nsa-planted-backdoors-in-cisco-products.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/internet-privacy/s... [1] https://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-11/news/mn-55816_1_cia-officials https://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-11/news/mn-55816_1_cia-... [1] https://www.rt.com/news/269251-nsa-sarkozy-hollande-wikileaks/ https://www.rt.com/news/269251-nsa-sarkozy-hollande-wikileak... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2013/09/16/indias-war-on-intellectual-property-rights-may-bring-with-it-a-body-count/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2013/09/16/indias-wa...