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Or you could just learn how to manage infrastructure the old fashioned way, which was never broken for small business and mid-sized enterprise environments. The
by romeisendcoming 8y ago
Or you could just learn how to manage infrastructure the old fashioned way, which was never broken for small business and mid-sized enterprise environments. The only time you need the complexity and overhead of something like kubernetes is when you are truly large or when you have caught the in-fashion disease.
It's quite simple for a 20 year SA to stand up a highly integrated environment with modular monitoring, directory service, virtualization and hybrid cloud options for all services in a week. Why don't you hire one of these for the job instead of recipe/containering yourself into 'doesn't work, I dunno' posts.
- Tehchops 8y ago>Why don't you hire one of these for the job instead of recipe/containering yourself into 'doesn't work, I dunno' posts. Because every.single.one of these "integrated environments" I've ever come across was an objective mess, poorly documented and littered with tech-debt. It was clear the "20-year SA" had forced 20-year old administration abstractions and ideas on top of modern infrastructure and application concerns. It was cheaper/better/easier to throw it out and rebuild on something like k8s than to make any attempting at "scaling" the existing solution. You're simply trading the "in-fashion" disease for the "I'm a 20-year Linuxbeard I know best and no one tells me different" disease.
- romeisendcoming 8y agoThere is some of that, certainly, but you can misapply any solution and perform poorly using any tool or personality. For your information I find the new breed and k8s FUD to be more of a reaction rather than an educated, seamless and practical systems approach.
- manigandham 8y agoWhy not hire an SA? Because K8S is free and runs well from small to large and is available on every cloud where the IT infrastructure already is. Why is it better to spend money to rebuild a fraction of K8S with a patchwork of infrastructure put together by a single person?
- romeisendcoming 8y agoSales talk. This doesn't reflect reality, sadly.
- manigandham 8y agoWhat's sales talk? What's not reality? K8S can replace quite a lot of sysadmin responsibilities and is currently doing so at thousands of companies.
- romeisendcoming 8y agoIMO the commonality at thousands of these companies is a relatively uncomplicated application stack requirement or micro services. If you have ever had to talk down execs bitten by the k8s hype in a scientific compute or HPC environment you would know that the marketing and sales talk is both prevalent and damaging.