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You'd have to prove that they knew ahead of time that they were selling counterfeit products rather than having been duped by an unscrupulous supplier, and I'm

You'd have to prove that they knew ahead of time that they were selling counterfeit products rather than having been duped by an unscrupulous supplier, and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. Note that the article you linked to doesn't mention Amazon at all -- if Amazon was part of that counterfeit scheme, you'd think the NYTimes would be happy to get in a dig at the owner of the Washington Post if they could.

LeifCarrotson 8y ago
Why is that the standard of proof? Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse. I guess you could argue that Amazon is in a unique position somewhere between, say, Craigslist (which simply allows independent sellers to connect with buyers and should bear little responsibility for counterfeits) and an old-fashioned mom-and-pop (which buys goods directly, choosing legitimate or illegitimate wholesalers and handling the merchandise). But everyone is in-between these days. And the time for a defense from ignorance is long past...
- Johnny555 8y ago
  "Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse" Are you sure? The linked article said that the retailers that were busted were part of the scheme, doesn't sound like they were innocent bystanders that were cheated by the distributors. Three retail businesses in Queens and two in Manhattan were part of the scheme, Mr. Melendez said, adding that they had closed
BeetleB 8y ago
>and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. I've sold new items on Amazon (fulfilled by Amazon). I assure you, I provided no such paperwork other than me marking it as new when I set up the shipment on their site.
- Johnny555 8y ago
  Isn't that the paperwork?

LeifCarrotson 8y ago

Why is that the standard of proof? Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse. I guess you could argue that Amazon is in a unique position somewhere between, say, Craigslist (which simply allows independent sellers to connect with buyers and should bear little responsibility for counterfeits) and an old-fashioned mom-and-pop (which buys goods directly, choosing legitimate or illegitimate wholesalers and handling the merchandise). But everyone is in-between these days. And the time for a defense from ignorance is long past...

Johnny555 8y ago
"Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse" Are you sure? The linked article said that the retailers that were busted were part of the scheme, doesn't sound like they were innocent bystanders that were cheated by the distributors. Three retail businesses in Queens and two in Manhattan were part of the scheme, Mr. Melendez said, adding that they had closed

BeetleB 8y ago

>and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. I've sold new items on Amazon (fulfilled by Amazon). I assure you, I provided no such paperwork other than me marking it as new when I set up the shipment on their site.

Johnny555 8y ago
Isn't that the paperwork?