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legally every Amazon warehouse should be seized by the Feds for knowingly helping to ship counterfeit goods across state lines. That's what happens to other re

legally every Amazon warehouse should be seized by the Feds for knowingly helping to ship counterfeit goods across state lines. That's what happens to other retailers who do this[1]. Luckily, Bezos owns the Washington Post, has a 600 million dollar contract with the CIA, and is close to signing a 10 billion dollar contract with the Department of Defense. The new HQ in DC probably helps grease those hands as well 1. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/nyregion/fake-luxury-goods-handbags.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/nyregion/fake-luxury-good...

Johnny555 8y ago
You'd have to prove that they knew ahead of time that they were selling counterfeit products rather than having been duped by an unscrupulous supplier, and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. Note that the article you linked to doesn't mention Amazon at all -- if Amazon was part of that counterfeit scheme, you'd think the NYTimes would be happy to get in a dig at the owner of the Washington Post if they could.
- LeifCarrotson 8y ago
  Why is that the standard of proof? Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse. I guess you could argue that Amazon is in a unique position somewhere between, say, Craigslist (which simply allows independent sellers to connect with buyers and should bear little responsibility for counterfeits) and an old-fashioned mom-and-pop (which buys goods directly, choosing legitimate or illegitimate wholesalers and handling the merchandise). But everyone is in-between these days. And the time for a defense from ignorance is long past...
  - Johnny555 8y ago
    "Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse" Are you sure? The linked article said that the retailers that were busted were part of the scheme, doesn't sound like they were innocent bystanders that were cheated by the distributors. Three retail businesses in Queens and two in Manhattan were part of the scheme, Mr. Melendez said, adding that they had closed
- BeetleB 8y ago
  >and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. I've sold new items on Amazon (fulfilled by Amazon). I assure you, I provided no such paperwork other than me marking it as new when I set up the shipment on their site.
  - Johnny555 8y ago
    Isn't that the paperwork?
0xfffff 8y ago
Its interesting that they can just get away with this so easily and make it the consumers problem. im also wondering how often consumers dont know nor realize they bought something counterfeit.
pps43 8y ago
I belive that. For example, Amazon is selling "DOT approved" H11 LED headlights with good reviews. One problem is that they blind oncoming drivers (I know because I bought them and tried). The other problem is that DOT does not approve headlights, and FMVSS-108 says H11 is halogen, so this clearly violates 49 U.S. Code § 30112. I asked the seller and they did not respond, but when I tried to write a review Amazon would not let me: "Sorry, we are unable to accept your review. You are no longer permitted to review products on Amazon because you have violated our Community Guidelines." I called Amazon and they said the'll investigate and get back to me, but never did.
- Wowfunhappy 8y ago
  Do you have any idea what action was considered a community guidelines violation?
  - pps43 8y ago
    No, they never told me.

Johnny555 8y ago

You'd have to prove that they knew ahead of time that they were selling counterfeit products rather than having been duped by an unscrupulous supplier, and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. Note that the article you linked to doesn't mention Amazon at all -- if Amazon was part of that counterfeit scheme, you'd think the NYTimes would be happy to get in a dig at the owner of the Washington Post if they could.

LeifCarrotson 8y ago
Why is that the standard of proof? Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse. I guess you could argue that Amazon is in a unique position somewhere between, say, Craigslist (which simply allows independent sellers to connect with buyers and should bear little responsibility for counterfeits) and an old-fashioned mom-and-pop (which buys goods directly, choosing legitimate or illegitimate wholesalers and handling the merchandise). But everyone is in-between these days. And the time for a defense from ignorance is long past...
- Johnny555 8y ago
  "Other retailers don't seem to get the "our supplier lied and we didn't bother checking" as an excuse" Are you sure? The linked article said that the retailers that were busted were part of the scheme, doesn't sound like they were innocent bystanders that were cheated by the distributors. Three retail businesses in Queens and two in Manhattan were part of the scheme, Mr. Melendez said, adding that they had closed
BeetleB 8y ago
>and I'm sure they have the paperwork to "prove" that the supplier sent them legit product. I've sold new items on Amazon (fulfilled by Amazon). I assure you, I provided no such paperwork other than me marking it as new when I set up the shipment on their site.
- Johnny555 8y ago
  Isn't that the paperwork?

0xfffff 8y ago

Its interesting that they can just get away with this so easily and make it the consumers problem. im also wondering how often consumers dont know nor realize they bought something counterfeit.

pps43 8y ago

I belive that. For example, Amazon is selling "DOT approved" H11 LED headlights with good reviews. One problem is that they blind oncoming drivers (I know because I bought them and tried). The other problem is that DOT does not approve headlights, and FMVSS-108 says H11 is halogen, so this clearly violates 49 U.S. Code § 30112. I asked the seller and they did not respond, but when I tried to write a review Amazon would not let me: "Sorry, we are unable to accept your review. You are no longer permitted to review products on Amazon because you have violated our Community Guidelines." I called Amazon and they said the'll investigate and get back to me, but never did.

Wowfunhappy 8y ago
Do you have any idea what action was considered a community guidelines violation?
- pps43 8y ago
  No, they never told me.