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Most European style countries are doing just fine (including japan and korea). Small populations and moderate to negative birthrates. Great environmental laws a

Most European style countries are doing just fine (including japan and korea). Small populations and moderate to negative birthrates. Great environmental laws and various forms of recycling and waste management. Various technological developments reduce overall resource consumption. In many of these countries there even internalized personal beliefs that reduce urban pollution. Do you think nature can even hold a candle to these organized peoples? You think these people are afraid of water? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_in_the_Netherlands#/media/File:The_Netherlands_compared_to_sealevel.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_control_in_the_Netherlan...

rdiddly 8y ago
I'm not sure what you mean with the fear of water. I brought up rain as an analogy for something that happens no matter what your opinion of it. And if anything the people along the Rhein may soon have to fear a relative absence of water. But anyway yes, most of the European countries deserve compliments for actually taking action on the climate issue. I fear it won't be enough, but there's a chance it will be, and anyway at least it's something. The USA where I am, can't even satisfy the prerequisites. To implement a solution, you have to first reach a consensus about what reality is. Then you have to decide what actions to take based on that consensus. Then you have to put some adults in charge of implementing those measures. Then they implement them. The USA can't even get past step 1 ("What is reality?") because a kind of psychosis seems to rule the land.
- petermcneeley 8y ago
  The facts are irrelevant at this stage this is purely politics. The poor and middle class do not want to be penalized for climate change (French yellow jacket protests are most visible example of this). This is just bluffing between economic groups.

rdiddly 8y ago

I'm not sure what you mean with the fear of water. I brought up rain as an analogy for something that happens no matter what your opinion of it. And if anything the people along the Rhein may soon have to fear a relative absence of water. But anyway yes, most of the European countries deserve compliments for actually taking action on the climate issue. I fear it won't be enough, but there's a chance it will be, and anyway at least it's something. The USA where I am, can't even satisfy the prerequisites. To implement a solution, you have to first reach a consensus about what reality is. Then you have to decide what actions to take based on that consensus. Then you have to put some adults in charge of implementing those measures. Then they implement them. The USA can't even get past step 1 ("What is reality?") because a kind of psychosis seems to rule the land.

petermcneeley 8y ago
The facts are irrelevant at this stage this is purely politics. The poor and middle class do not want to be penalized for climate change (French yellow jacket protests are most visible example of this). This is just bluffing between economic groups.