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It's the same. There is no logical difference between believing in flat earth and believing in spermless conception

xemoka 8y ago
There is one difference here though: we have observed parthenogenesis in nature, so we know it can occur. We have not observed anything like a 'flat earth'.
- ykevinator 8y ago
  But during those observations no one ever ascribes divinity to it. Instead, a scientific explanation is sought. If one believes that Jesus and the parthenogentic shark were the same phenomenon, then one should do some soul searching to ask why one does does not seek the same category of explanation. It is a defect in the seeker, not a difference in the phenomenon (a fixable defect).
squirrelicus 8y ago
There is more to Christianity than unbelievable fairy tales like spermless conception. Read Matthew. You'll be surprised how... American it sounds. Basics we take for granted like "the blind leading the blind" are scriptural and religious, and things that are easy to forget how to name and call out without the religion. Indeed, the foundation of capitalism, the right approach to differences in natural ability, and how we should view equality are found in Matthew 25. Just read that one if you can't stomach the Bible in general.
- ykevinator 8y ago
  I'm not anti Bible, I just think belief in something despite evidence to the contrary is irrational and in this regard, belief in flat earth and the supernatural are equally irrational. We don't all have to be rational. Irrational people are not bad people. It's not immoral to be irrational. I love many irrational people in my circle of friends and family. But to believe in something despite evidence is called faith and faith and science cannot coexist because people of faith offer no condition under which they will acknowledge that their belief is incorrect. So with that rule set of logic, flat earth believers and believers in supernatural are in the same category, with love and respect. As a side note, that the Bible is wise and moral is independent of its accounts of the supernatural being true. The supernatural can be explained by the time period in which it was written.

There is one difference here though: we have observed parthenogenesis in nature, so we know it can occur. We have not observed anything like a 'flat earth'.

ykevinator 8y ago
But during those observations no one ever ascribes divinity to it. Instead, a scientific explanation is sought. If one believes that Jesus and the parthenogentic shark were the same phenomenon, then one should do some soul searching to ask why one does does not seek the same category of explanation. It is a defect in the seeker, not a difference in the phenomenon (a fixable defect).

squirrelicus 8y ago

There is more to Christianity than unbelievable fairy tales like spermless conception. Read Matthew. You'll be surprised how... American it sounds. Basics we take for granted like "the blind leading the blind" are scriptural and religious, and things that are easy to forget how to name and call out without the religion. Indeed, the foundation of capitalism, the right approach to differences in natural ability, and how we should view equality are found in Matthew 25. Just read that one if you can't stomach the Bible in general.

ykevinator 8y ago
I'm not anti Bible, I just think belief in something despite evidence to the contrary is irrational and in this regard, belief in flat earth and the supernatural are equally irrational. We don't all have to be rational. Irrational people are not bad people. It's not immoral to be irrational. I love many irrational people in my circle of friends and family. But to believe in something despite evidence is called faith and faith and science cannot coexist because people of faith offer no condition under which they will acknowledge that their belief is incorrect. So with that rule set of logic, flat earth believers and believers in supernatural are in the same category, with love and respect. As a side note, that the Bible is wise and moral is independent of its accounts of the supernatural being true. The supernatural can be explained by the time period in which it was written.