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that doesn't seem to hold. Once MS was forced to deal with their monopoly IE issues Firefox and then Chrome took off. Now to the point that Chrome is number 1
by tokyodude 8y ago
that doesn't seem to hold.
Once MS was forced to deal with their monopoly IE issues Firefox and then Chrome took off. Now to the point that Chrome is number 1 by user choice even if you remove Android from the picture.
It would most likely be number one on iOS as well if Apple actually allowed Devs to implement a browser engine because Chrome follows 10s possibly even 100s of standards that Safari is dropping the ball on.
The only single reason Apple can get away with this is their control over the platform and not allowing competition in that space.
That's not just bad for iOS users and lack of choice (Chrome is provably more secure than Safari so by not allowing it Apple is not allowing users to choose a more secure browser ... see vulnerability lists), it's also bad for the entire web at large. By Apple controlling all iOS users access to the internet they have an effective stranglehold on what standards get adopted.
- saagarjha 8y ago> Chrome is provably more secure than Safari You’re going to have to back this up with evidence. Both browsers are similarly secure, which is to say, they are probably good enough that you probably have other things to worry about than how secure your browser is.
- sjwright 8y ago> Chrome is provably more secure than Safari What's the point of a "more secure" web browser that encourages you to sign in to the entire browser application with your Google account and leak huge amounts of your browsing habits to a company that derives incredible profits from your tracking your activities?
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- pdimitar 8y ago> Chrome follows 10s possibly even 100s of standards that Safari is dropping the ball on. I went almost full Apple 14 months ago and I am yet to find a single website that I need that's not working at all or even well enough in Safari, desktop or mobile. The only argument I've seen so far is "but standard X is new, we need it!" without ever saying why do you need it. Care to elaborate?
- saagarjha 8y ago> I am yet to find a single website that I need that's not working at all or even well enough in Safari, desktop or mobile. This isn't a particulary great argument, since web developers are generally forced to adopt the lowest common denominator of what popular browsers implement.
- pdimitar 8y ago"We need the latest standards" isn't a particularly great argument either. Web existed and flourished long before 90% of these new standards even came into being.
- Semaphor 8y agoUmh, for a long time people could use old IEs and say the same. I assume IE11 people will also not have any problems. Yet IE11 is why many people will not be able to use CSS Grid for a long time. Your argument makes no sense unless you say you WANT devs to exclude people with left-behind browsers.
- pdimitar 8y agoYou are shifting the topic with a flawed analogy. IE was breaking websites left and right. Safari doesn't. Give me an example of Safari users getting significantly worse experience in a web service that they need in their everyday lives.
- Semaphor 8y agoI'm not. I'm telling you why your argument makes no sense. People don't use features that would break safari.
- tjoff 8y agoOnce MS was forced to deal with their monopoly IE issues Firefox and then Chrome took off. God no. MS abandoning their browser for a decade is the reason for why alternatives became dominant.
- millstone 8y agoChrome is #1 because of Google’s enormous marketing blitz for it, including advertising it directly on google.com.