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How do flat earthers explain that the other planets are round and we see different sides of them all the time? Is earth flat and the rest of the planets are sp

How do flat earthers explain that the other planets are round and we see different sides of them all the time? Is earth flat and the rest of the planets are spheres??? Even in their bizarre world of logic this seems unassailable.

bad_user 8y ago
I don't think reason works with flat earthers, with creationists or conspiracy theorists in general. They'll cling on to any piece of information that confirms their world view and ignore the rest.
- LoSboccacc 8y ago
  Part of the issue is that most of the arguments about flat earth are easy to me in layman's terms and hard to debunk without going deep mathematically. And there are lots of them, see this famous example https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ax_YpQsy88 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ax_YpQsy88 Now let's assume that a flat eaether believer is lacking the sort of knowledge required to instance why these "proofs" are wrong, how you going to debate them with the knowledge gap? You have to either fill that first or convert all your arguments into layman terms, making it extremely costly and time consuming. And so their view goes unchallenged.
Sendotsh 8y ago
They basically think there's a dome over the earth, and the stars are just a flat projected/printed surface on that dome (and other variations of that idea, like that the sun/moon are inside the dome going in circles overhead).
teraflop 8y ago
"What do you mean, 'we'? When I look through a telescope, all I see is a fuzzy dot. Scientists keep conveniently coming up with these photos that supposedly show the Earth and other planets to be round, but the rest of us have no way of verifying that they're anything other than pure fiction." Or something along those lines.
- perl4ever 8y ago
  You can doubt anything given sufficient belief in conspiracies, but the most compelling evidence that the typical flat-earth theories are wrong for me, is a picture of Antarctica from directly overhead. e.g. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/36839/antarctica https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/36839/antarctica
  - saagarjha 8y ago
    > Scientists keep conveniently coming up with these photos that supposedly show the Earth and other planets to be round, but the rest of us have no way of verifying that they're anything other than pure fiction. Unfortunately this still applies. It’s very hard to “prove” this to people, space travel being expensive and all, but until they can experience it themselves it’s easy to keep coming up with reasons why scientists are misleading you.
baddox 8y ago
Well, yeah, flat Earth is explicitly about Earth being a special privileged spot in the Universe.
michaelmrose 8y ago
The vast majority of the world consists of things that the majority of people are incapable of creating from scratch if you gave them a thousand year lifespan and free food. A minority actually adds to the world. What we call civilization is a giant corpus of knowledge, patterns of stimulus/response, methods of passing on minimum info required to navigate, but not understand the things others have made for them. Rather like your dog can learn to bark at the door to get out but not build a different kind of house.
darkpuma 8y ago
The earth isn't a planet.

bad_user 8y ago

I don't think reason works with flat earthers, with creationists or conspiracy theorists in general. They'll cling on to any piece of information that confirms their world view and ignore the rest.

LoSboccacc 8y ago
Part of the issue is that most of the arguments about flat earth are easy to me in layman's terms and hard to debunk without going deep mathematically. And there are lots of them, see this famous example https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ax_YpQsy88 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ax_YpQsy88 Now let's assume that a flat eaether believer is lacking the sort of knowledge required to instance why these "proofs" are wrong, how you going to debate them with the knowledge gap? You have to either fill that first or convert all your arguments into layman terms, making it extremely costly and time consuming. And so their view goes unchallenged.

Sendotsh 8y ago

They basically think there's a dome over the earth, and the stars are just a flat projected/printed surface on that dome (and other variations of that idea, like that the sun/moon are inside the dome going in circles overhead).

teraflop 8y ago

"What do you mean, 'we'? When I look through a telescope, all I see is a fuzzy dot. Scientists keep conveniently coming up with these photos that supposedly show the Earth and other planets to be round, but the rest of us have no way of verifying that they're anything other than pure fiction." Or something along those lines.

perl4ever 8y ago
You can doubt anything given sufficient belief in conspiracies, but the most compelling evidence that the typical flat-earth theories are wrong for me, is a picture of Antarctica from directly overhead. e.g. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/36839/antarctica https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/36839/antarctica
- saagarjha 8y ago
  > Scientists keep conveniently coming up with these photos that supposedly show the Earth and other planets to be round, but the rest of us have no way of verifying that they're anything other than pure fiction. Unfortunately this still applies. It’s very hard to “prove” this to people, space travel being expensive and all, but until they can experience it themselves it’s easy to keep coming up with reasons why scientists are misleading you.

baddox 8y ago

Well, yeah, flat Earth is explicitly about Earth being a special privileged spot in the Universe.

michaelmrose 8y ago

The vast majority of the world consists of things that the majority of people are incapable of creating from scratch if you gave them a thousand year lifespan and free food. A minority actually adds to the world. What we call civilization is a giant corpus of knowledge, patterns of stimulus/response, methods of passing on minimum info required to navigate, but not understand the things others have made for them. Rather like your dog can learn to bark at the door to get out but not build a different kind of house.

darkpuma 8y ago

The earth isn't a planet.